it's just kinda a messy drawer of batteries/screwdrivers/IKEA assembly tools/etc. We've had it for like 15 years and it's never been an issue but I saw a tiktok video of a lithium battery exploding and it made me realize, there's a lot of potential energy in one drawer and idk if I'm taking the necessary safety precautions š
idk a lot about how batteries work, but like are they at risk of turning into a pillow and fireball like lithium ion ones?

34 Comments
Tetsuo@jlai.lu · 37 pts · 78d
If that's not lithium batteries, I think it's "ok".
Still just in case, you should probably remove the tools that are in this drawer š
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 78d
The key is to ensure that you store any āpouchā lithium batteries away from everything else, and preferably in an airtight container and drained to 20% power.
Dry cell batteries (like the ones in your picture) should be stored in glass or plastic, so if the corrosive electrolytes leak out, they donāt damage anything else; you just have to recycle all the batteries the electrolytes touched.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 77d
The danger rating to any person in your household being harmed by the batteries in this drawer is about on the same level as receiving an electric shock from your TV while sitting on your sofa.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 77d
Or from the house burning down from the alarm clock
GatesMcBalmer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 78d
If you are creative enough anything can be dangerous, friend.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 77d
How many batteries could you swallow before you died from it?
Spur4383@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 77d
A single coin battery will do (or at least get close), but you will die in agony.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
At least 11
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 77d
Ah, are you the kid who ate 10 batteries and lived?
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 77d
...my council has asked me to decline answering that question
rbos@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 77d
Dunno if it helps but I put batteries in glass jars. Keeps them from getting contacted by metal things, keeps the leaks contained.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
That's a great idea actually
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 77d
Each battery in their own glass jar?
Because, else, the batteries have metal things that can contact each other, no?
rbos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 77d
I use jars small enough that they are physically unable to do so.
user1234@fedinsfw.app · 8 pts · 78d
As long as you don't leave it open like that. Otherwise it could be a tripping hazard or you could get a bad bruise grin running into it.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 78d
Probably one of the less dangerous things you do on a daily basis.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 4 pts · 78d
It is less dangerous than me sitting on my ass all day.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 8 pts · 77d
I can see 2 possibly bad scenarios:
Tools with open metal surfaces (left corner) could short circuit a battery, if it touches both poles at once. But most of your batteries are still in packaging.
Lithium batteries could heat up and then catch fire. This happens usually to very old lithium batteries while charging. Watch out if their outer shape changes, if they start looking like a fat belly, then get rid of them.
DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 78d
Itās fine. Even if they were lithium batteries āstill fine. See battery manufacturers actually design batteries specifically so that they donāt fail catastrophically (𤯠crazy right?) but itās true. Turns out they have whole-ass warehouses full of them.
Obviously itās possible for lithium batteries to fail catastrophically, but this isnāt a typical failure mode. Generally catastrophic failures happen when a battery is damaged and or under load.
Typical household batteries are not as energy dense as EV batteries. And are not packed as densely such that a single cell puffing wonāt cause a cascading failure.
I do recommend keeping them in bags to contain leaks, coin cells are generally already well packed, but it canāt hurt. Itās also not a terrible idea to write the date you bought them on the bags and properly dispose of them after ~5 years.
Venator@lemmy.nz · 11 pts · 78d
damn your preemptive hyphen preventing me from reading it as ass-warehouses and chuckling to myself
marcos@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 78d
You are a free person. Do not let hyphens impede you from doing the things you want!
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 77d
unzips
DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 78d
I mean⦠thereās that company big ass fans, I feel like they definitely refer to it as such ;-)
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 2 pts · 77d
I'm not a chemist or 'battery scientist,' but I understand that Li+ ion cells can indeed be heavily damaged without showing any outward traces of such. That is, internal filaments can build up over time, and a damaged cell can be at risk when charging (as you note above, I believe).
That said, there may be associated swelling that tends to indicate such damage, but I'm not sure that's always true. A cell with a cheaply-made casing would be a combined risk.
DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 76d
True. Thereās lots of pretty dodgy cells floating around these days, and they are often marked as being from more reputable manufacturers⦠Iām speaking mostly of packaging batteries 18650 and larger (probably smaller too) rolled type batteries, though I assume thereās shitty prismatic/pouch types as well.
I didnāt see anything like that in OPās image, which is why I wasnāt advising undue caution. Personally I try very hard to stick with reputable brands and establish manufacturers when playing around with bare cells, power banks, weird Amazon gadgets, etc.
Iām certainly not a proper expert either. I do try to exercise an abundance of caution with unknown or questionable products, damaged cells, etc.
Years ago when getting into quadcopters/drones I read some good advice; high powered batteries should be treated more like fuel than traditional NiCad/NiMh batteries. That advice has always served me well.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 77d
Everyone seems to be saying this is super safe, but I wouldn't do this. If nothing else the batteries can leak and therefore you should put them in a container to prevent damaging anything else if that does happen. And yeah I definitely would try not to have metal tools banging around with the batteries, personally.
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 78d
I don't see any lithium batteries in this picture. Unless that black thing on top is one. I think you're overthinking it
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 77d
The two black things towards the top are a multimeter and an ifixit brand repair kit (basically just a screwdriver and some multiple-dozen screwdriver bits), so nothing that will explode.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 78d
Unless those 9 volts are individually wrapped, I wouldnāt put the screwdriver that close to them. Other than that, it looks fine to me, someone who barely knows more than average about batteries.
Bratosch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 78d
I mean, every guy has one of those drawers and I don't think I've ever heard anyone being hurt or dying from an exploding battery storage box; Sooo I'd say you're fine?
vext01@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 77d
If you look on aliexpress, they sell zip cases for batteries that have a foam insert with holes cut for different sizes of batteries. They also have mesh zip pockets inside for your flatter coin cells etc.
We have one and I haven't looked back.
I worry about house fires, so I find this gives peace of mind over shorting batteries. Safety concerns aside, it just helps with overall organisation.
For old/untrusted lithium cells that are waiting to be recycled, i have a clamp shut ammo case from army surplus.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 77d
Only thing I'm worried about, is the multimeter of it doesn't have right angled connectors.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -2 pts · 77d
Why does that matter? They kinda bother me
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 77d
If the leads are not right angled at the connection point then you will destroy them. Has happened to me before.