Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 21st June 2026

https://awful.systems/post/8591627

Want to wade into the rainbow-ridden surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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maol@awful.systems · 22 pts · 46d

Some good news for once: Dublin punk bar the Thomas House have had enough of AI slop.

::: spoiler alt text A picture of a "no AI" symbol next to the Thomas House logo.

"So for the future (literally) we're not accepting AI posters or flyers for the pub.

We're right next to Ireland's biggest Art College, lads. It's not a good look.

We understand bands can be skint but relying on some earth killing app from some paedo Island billionaire is not the way. We got by without it and we'll get by again. If you're stuck, we'll help.

Yes it has been used here before but consider this the start of the end of it. Thanks, humans." :::

blakestacey@awful.systems · 20 pts · 48d (3 replies)

IS NOTHING SACRED?!

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d (2 replies)

I checked Wikipedia's history, its been fucked since last year

dgerard@awful.systems · 4 pts · 48d (1 reply)

I checked the image which says December last year.

blakestacey@awful.systems · 10 pts · 48d

I haven't bothered to examine the page history to see when the fucked content was actually introduced. I'm hoping that by posting about it, I can catch the attention of a particularly pedantic sex nerd who will be willing to fix it, for humanity's sake. Let us not let the Adult Bookstore of Alexandria burn; rather, let us chronicle our times with our free hands

fullsquare@awful.systems · 18 pts · 49d (6 replies)

i'll just quote it straight because i can't make it any funnier:

maia arson crimew 🏴 ‪> @crimew.gay‬ SCOOP: So remember Dialog, Peter Thiel's private society that doesn't have a public website and no public list of members? I (along with a number of other journalists) have just been tipped off that embedded in the code of their closed off website there IS what seems to be a list of some members.

https://bsky.app/profile/crimew.gay/post/3moejkbqctc2z

V0ldek@awful.systems · 16 pts · 49d

We are good on opsec

schnoopy@awful.systems · 11 pts · 48d

Of course Ezra Klein is hanging out with the worst people in the world. He's always on the hunt for a new gutter to pick up some fetid idea and tart it up for liberals.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 9 pts · 48d (1 reply)

Wired has a story about Peter Thiel's Dialogue conference in Ireland. They chickened out of publishing the names who include Tim Urban, Tyler Cowen, Jonathan Haidt, Sam Harris, Steven Pinker, "sitting Trump administration officials, two US senators, six members of the Paypal Mafia (hi Jaan! hi Peter! hi Elon!), a former Middle East chief of intelligence, and a sitting ambassador to the United States, along with the founders and directors of many of the country's largest surveillance, data-broker, and advertising-data companies (hi Doktor Karp!)."

The same data lays out a program of off-the-record sessions, including: “Money (Does?) Buy Happiness,” “Bring Back Nuclear,” “Navigating WWIII,” “Battlefield Technologies,” and “How’s Your Sex Life?” Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com, and “Build-a-Party,” run by a former White House national security official.

...

Dialog also plays matchmaker. Its participant form asks registrants whether they are “looking for love” and offers to include “Single Man,” “Single Woman,” or “Other” respondents in “future matchmaking.” A separate site, dating.dialog.org, hosts an app pitched as “meaningful connections for exceptional people.”

So like a rationalist event, but the guests skew very rich not professional middle class.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 8 pts · 47d

I'm sorry are you telling me that there people's social circle includes the same like 50 oligarchs and apparatchiks and they're making a dating site for themselves? I know they lost Epstein but this is just pathetic.

jaschop@awful.systems · 9 pts · 49d

Oof, Kallas is in there (VP EU Commission). Wonder what her press statement will be...

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 7 pts · 49d

According to a later post from them there's a chance this is more of a list of attendees at a past or upcoming event, but tbh I don't think there's much of a difference between "member of the nu-money illuminati" and "accepted an invite to hang out with the nu-money illuminati at their clubhouse." I can only assume it has the same statue of a hand clutching a globe as the Deus Ex opening cinematic.

samvines@awful.systems · 17 pts · 50d (3 replies)

This Geekwire piece about anti-ai movement being just like the anti-gmo movement really boils my piss.

The anti GMO movement was non scientific and the reasons to reject the tech were always vibes. Whereas AI is entirely vibes and the reason to reject it are abundant and obvious - I don't need to list them in this forum.

Why did GMOs win the long game? Three reasons that map almost exactly onto AI-generated content.

First, the product is indistinguishable. Nobody can tell whether the corn syrup in their soda came from a bioengineered cob, and after a while they stop wondering. AI-written prose is already past the Turing threshold for casual reading. Many readers cannot tell a competent LLM draft from a competent human one.

Yes because LLMs are so great at prose. They definitely don't keep telling the same story about the same made up characters and locations. And they don't produce hallucinations that keep getting people into trouble.

Now the techno fascist billionaire class know how much we hate AI we shouldn't be too surprised that the flaks are out in force trying to spin anti-ai sentiment as an unjustified position for an educated people. We're doing something right folks. Keep fighting the good fine.

cstross@wandering.shop · 20 pts · 50d (2 replies)

@samvines @techtakes It's also missing the point that the original GMO crops that were being promoted were engineered by Monsanto to survive being drenched in Glyphosate, a probably-carcinogenic pesticide, to produce a monopoly in those crop plants for Monsanto. Ugly side of capitalism.

(If they'd led with golden rice, the reaction would have been different.)

It also arrived in the late stages of the BSE cull in the UK, at a time when food supply anxiety was at an all-time high.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 49d

I also question the degree to which "the other 99% of readers" actually don't care about AI slop. Even outside the awful bubble here I see AI images get met with at best a weary sigh of "I guess this is the world now" rather than actual acceptance. And I know we've talked at some length about how gell-mann amnesia isn't a very useful model, but I think most people are much less tolerant of slop in areas that the know more about. Maybe I can't tell an slopware history paper from a real one, but historians certainly can, and they hate that shit. In that sense the "median reader" statistic is misleading because the median reader isn't particularly invested in most of what gets written anyways, and it's the lack of investment that makes slop seem plausible. Even the concerns about deep fakes seem like they're not separate from this general problem, since the same disconnection that makes people uncritically accept deep fakes makes them uncritically accept fake news without an accompanying video, or with a context-stripped video from an unrelated event, or whatever.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 1 pts · 49d

the original GMO crops

The original GMO crops would be like, broccoli existing and bananas not sucking ass. Monsanto are villains but they didn't invent genetics or selection.

fullsquare@awful.systems · 16 pts · 49d (2 replies)

zitron got a scoop on openai: 8.8B loss in 2024, 60.3B loss in 2025, 1.17B from ms + softbank, promises more detailed analysis later https://www.wheresyoured.at/exclusive-openai-financials/

samvines@awful.systems · 10 pts · 49d (1 reply)

So when sama suggested the financials would leak and people speculated that Zitron might have thema couple of weeks ago, they were bang on the money!

fullsquare@awful.systems · 6 pts · 49d

tbf i expected that ed got openai's s1 at that point. anything more detailed would be nice to see. that also suggests that saltman knows that leak occurred, and maybe who leaker is

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 16 pts · 47d (11 replies)

Scott Alexander is totally neurotypical (2015):

I kind of a have a front-row seat here. On the one hand, about half my friends, my girlfriend, and my ex-girlfriend all identify as autistic. For that matter, people keep trying to tell me I’m autistic. When people say “autistic” in cases like this, they mean “introverted, likes math and trains, some unusual sensory sensitivities, and makes cute hand movements when they get excited.” On the other hand, I work as a psychiatrist and some of my patients are autistic. Many of these patients are nonverbal. Many of them are violent. Many of them scream all the time. Some of them seem to live their entire lives as one big effort to kill or maim themselves which is constantly being thwarted by their caretakers and doctors.

So he can't be autistic, because then he would have something in common with people who can't have a respectable upper-middle-class life. And it gets darker:

But even more controversially, absent such certainty that your child will flourish I think if some kind of genetic-engineering autism-cure existed, parents would have a moral obligation to use it.

As a good eugenicist, he knows there are simple ways to stop people from passing on their genes. And Scott Alexander wants children, so Scott Alexander is totally neurotypical. QED losers.

it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems · 13 pts · 47d (7 replies)

A real pre-WWII understanding of autism on display. It's also honestly profoundly upsetting to me to see people who have had the experience, at least as a child, of having sensory issues and poor communication skills, not be able to relate at least a little to the notion of someone having a violent meltdown over something they can't coherently explain. Somehow even more pick-me behavior than Hans Aspberger.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 8 pts · 47d (5 replies)

Its like he wrote "many of my friends identify as heterosexual, and they say I might be heterosexual too, but in my work as a forensic psychiatrist my heterosexual patients are accused rapists and sex pests and people who got arrested with a suitcase full of cocaine and a phone full of texts from a 'Brazilian model." and never tried to reconcile the two or thought through the Bayesian logic.

lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 47d (4 replies)

You’re telling me that the Autism Spectrum is a spectrum and not just the quirky thing people have?

maol@awful.systems · 6 pts · 45d

You see this particular kind of bigotry quite a bit in relation to neurodivervence and disability. It's an attempt to beat people advocating for equality and justice by claiming a moral high ground. Oh, you think disabled people can have meaningful and worthwhile lives and that differences should be celebrated?? You must be too ignorant to know just how awful life is for people who really have that disability!

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 6 pts · 47d (2 replies)

(sarcasm) I'm saying that just because I get sucked off by guys does not mean I'm one of those queers! I don't go to pride parades or leather bars or have fashion sense and everyone knows that is what 'gay' means. I'm as heterosexual as Ted Haggard. (end sarcasm)

lurker@awful.systems · 7 pts · 46d (1 reply)

well great now I’m thinking about this

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 8 pts · 46d

Gay people I respect:

I can pretend they're straight

Gay people I don't:

I can't pretend they aren't gay and I've decided this is a 'them problem'

mawhrin@awful.systems · 6 pts · 46d

and now realise that this motherfucker is a practising psychiatrist

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 47d

This feels like yet another case of "what no postmodernism does to a mf". Because I can kind of agree they ASD is a bit of a weird diagnosis in some respects, but that's entirely because of an ongoing discussion between different social models of mental diversity. On one hand, much of the autistic community has embraced a model rooted in neurodiversity. The associated behaviors aren't "abnormal" and happen to nearly everyone to some degree, but some people experience them in different ways that impact how they interact with other people and the world. In this model, we need to emphasize empathy and support to help everyone find a place in the world where they can be happy and fulfilled.

But Scott as a practicing psychiatrist is strongly invested in the older model of mental illness or mental disability, where some people have mental and behavioral problems that make life more difficult and dangerous for them and those around them, and those people need help to mitigate those problems so they can exist in society. This is obviously a less kind and more authoritarian model than neurodiversity, but it's easy enough to understand the appeal in circumstances where the challenge of "how do I help people be happy and successful" necessitates asking "how do I reduce or eliminate the risk of physical violence from this person." Hell, compared to the other model that gets invoked to deal with that question, criminality, it still at least acknowledges that people with high support needs are people whose well-being deserves consideration. A patient is a human being at least to the same degree that a child is, effectively.

But Scott, being afraid of postmodernism, can't really allow himself to recognize these as separate models that are valuable in different circumstances, not the least of which is because he's a fashy little bastard who would have to give up the authority of being a capital-D Doctor in favor of just being an expert on certain elements of the human mind and body. So instead he and his friends are totally neurotypical, yes. Don't listen to them describe their own experiences, listen to the Doctor Man.

EponymousBosh@awful.systems · 3 pts · 43d (1 reply)

It terrifies me that this man is a psychiatrist.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 4 pts · 42d

I think that backwards (like 1950s and earlier) views of autism are common in American psychiatry, but would love to hear more about his ideas from someone with relevant training. AFAIK no peer has ever commented on his biomedical blogging, like experts have commented on his eugenics promotion and cozy relationship with white supremacists and neoreactionaries. He never seems to have written for any professional venue either.

samvines@awful.systems · 14 pts · 44d (4 replies)

Three scenes and a comment:

  1. Me sitting in the baking heat in my garden, thinking about my own anxiety about climate change (we currently have our 2nd once-in-a-thousand-years record-breaking heatwave in 2 weeks in Europe), food shortages, instability and genocide in the middle east and the rise of the far right across western democracy.

  2. I see another story: some AI bros posting about their "anxiety" about AI being the end of human labour and jobs whilst posing for selfies in their fancy digital nomad resort.

  3. I'm still sweating and scrolling from my garden... I see a quote about how we have to pick between the climate and AI...

We live in the dumbest and darkest timeline if we cannot collectively see the obvious course of action here. Social media, souped up by LLMs has collectively cooked our brains and hyper-segmented us into tiny echo chambers that don't have enough gravity to affect change. We need to break out of it

lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 44d (3 replies)

“We have to pick between the climate or AI”

No we don’t??? One problem directly affects the other. Stopping AI data centre build-out helps with stopping climate change.

antifuchs@awful.systems · 6 pts · 44d (2 replies)

I choose to read this as “you have to choose which to destroy”

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 43d (1 reply)

Then hand me that hammer and let’s get to smashing those data centres

antifuchs@awful.systems · 5 pts · 43d

This kind of humanity-affirming infrastructure work is illegal in most western jurisdictions

lurker@awful.systems · 13 pts · 48d (3 replies)

AGI’s ETA: Delayed (again) due to technical difficulties

came across this one when doomscrolling, pretty good article with healthy doses of skepticism. out of three commenters, one appears to be a rationalist (based off the “empirical evidence” and “instrumental convergence” they mention) who tries to argue that we don’t actually need human-like AI for paperclip maxxing, even though every single AI doom argument is about smart-as-a-human and better AIs. Just comes off as goalpost moving

it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems · 10 pts · 47d

The obsession with utility-maximizing Bayesian agents only gets weirder as time goes on. You couldn't really get further from the paperclip maximizer concept than an LLM, and yet they still won't shut up about unaligned goals and hidden utility functions.

gerikson@awful.systems · 9 pts · 48d

The header image is gold.

TrashGoblin@awful.systems · 3 pts · 46d

we don’t actually need human-like AI for paperclip maxxing

This bit is true though; capitalism is already doing a fine job of paperclip maxxing.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 13 pts · 49d (4 replies)

Person bets big on polymarket to profit from the continuation of the Iran war, gets screwed out of his blood money by site-wide oracle scam, complains on reddit.

Oracle as in a confirmation of facts protocol (used to be a thing with smart contracts), which in polymarket apparently amounts to token holders in an external DAO called UMA voting in proportion to their holdings to resolve disputes, and currently like 9 people hold over half the voting power, so yeah.

The future of finance and the future of information aggregation keep overlapping in the funniest ways.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 14 pts · 49d (1 reply)

Oracle as in a confirmation of facts protocol

Amazing that on first glance it looks like a smart contract 'all done by code' thing, but then the reveals comes and it is just a few rich people again.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 47d

Well yeah. Just because they call their crypto scheme an Oracle doesn't mean they've actually solved the oracle problem.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 13 pts · 48d

which in polymarket apparently amounts to token holders in an external DAO called UMA voting in proportion to their holdings to resolve disputes,

Wait that's even fucking dumber than I thought it was, good grief

Everything I've learnt about prediction casinos is against my will and all of it is somehow the dumbest shit imaginable. I went through crypto, NFTs, the metaverse, and 3 years of AI bullshit, and nothing reached this level of psychic damage before.

DJDarren@mendeddrum.org · 10 pts · 49d

LB: Enormous fan of that chud griping in /r/CryptoCurrency of all places, and getting laughed at for falling victim to a scam.

samvines@awful.systems · 13 pts · 48d (1 reply)

Whitehouse gives anthropic "just draw the rest of the fucking owl" energy over Fable:

Trump administration officials tell WIRED that if Anthropic wants to rerelease Fable 5, it will need to ensure the model's guardrails can't be circumvented. Security experts say that can't be done.

With this and the OpenAI stories over the last few days I've been enjoying some top shelf schadenfreude

lurker@awful.systems · 12 pts · 47d

The AI safety company when they actually have to make their AIs safe instead of just making vague suggestions

blakestacey@awful.systems · 12 pts · 50d (1 reply)

"It Is Trivially Easy to Use Reddit to Manipulate AI Search, Research Suggests"

https://www.404media.co/it-is-trivially-easy-to-use-reddit-to-manipulate-ai-search-research-suggests/

The preprint:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.24245

fullsquare@awful.systems · 6 pts · 50d

it's nice to have a preprint about a phenomenon that has been weaponized years ago. it's easy to say that in retrospect, but it was easy to say that in advance too. there are also bots that might try to do something similar on lemmy

rook@awful.systems · 12 pts · 45d (1 reply)

Some folks, who may be familiar to some or more of you, accidentally discovered that if your git repo symlinks CLAUDE.MD to, say, /dev/urandom, it breaks Claude code.

the reason why this works is exactly the reason why claude code sucks so bad. there are protections against this in the file reading tool. however because everything in claude code is implemented in 5 million different ways, those protections are a completely orthogonal set of codepaths from how CLAUDE.md files are read. conversely, the file read tool seems to be completely naive to symlinks while the CLAUDE.md reader is not. this is the fucking swiss cheese security model of the fucking gold standard of what AI programming can do.

https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116779793188712173

The thread is actually about trying to attract and manipulate autonomous coding agents, but they’ve only had limited success so far, which may have been slowed down by the above symlink trick.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 44d

however because everything in claude code is implemented in 5 million different ways, those protections are a completely orthogonal set of codepaths from how CLAUDE.md files are read. conversely, the file read tool seems to be completely naive to symlinks while the CLAUDE.md reader is not

See, if a person had written the system and had some kind of reasonable design or whatever then this kind of vulnerability may have turned into a full skeleton key to crack the entire system wide open. Instead, the superior machine intelligence ensures that all components will break in slightly different ways under slightly different conditions, thus ensuring no single fault can allow an adversary to completely compromise the system, provided of course that they can't just inject a prompt somewhere because as we all know that's a structural vulnerability that can completely crack the system open.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 49d (5 replies)

Anthropic: Oh no! Our new model is too powerful! It's dangerously good!

US Government: okay then you can't export it or allow foreign nationals to access it

Anthropic: Wait not like that

We have reviewed a report that we believe is the basis of the government's directive and validated that the level of capability displayed there is widely available from other models (including OpenAI’s GPT-5.5), and is used every day by the defenders who keep systems safe.

Of course this has less to do with the actual capabilities of any model and more to do with Anthropic openly telling the Trump administration "no" on exactly one occasion, but we can still roast some marshmallows over this dumpster fire, right?

lurker@awful.systems · 8 pts · 49d (4 replies)

that the level of capability displayed there is widely available from other models (including OpenAI’s GPT-5.5)

please god let them block ChatGPT access like they did with Fable. it would be so fucking funny

fullsquare@awful.systems · 6 pts · 49d

but that would cut down openai costs

samvines@awful.systems · 5 pts · 49d (2 replies)

Wait anthropic are admitting that their model is basically the same as gpt 5.5 and the hype was undeserved?

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 49d

Appears so. Their doomposting shot them in the foot so they have to backpeddle

ShakingMyHead@awful.systems · 1 pts · 49d
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dgerard@awful.systems · 11 pts · 47d (2 replies)
corbin@awful.systems · 5 pts · 47d

Glitch just wrapped a Youtube series by putting their final episode onto big screens in multiple countries. There's been a lot of media noise about the difficulty of getting films into theaters, and a lot of blaming Glitch, but there's not been any understanding about what Glitch actually did differently that is scaring Hollywood. I think it's that, just like with the Youtubers producing Backrooms and Iron Lung and FNAF, the thing Hollywood misses is the audience demographic. Glitch and other Youtubers are targeting an emerging young-adult audience which wants edgy, gritty, emotionally sincere content that fills the gap between PG-13 and R ratings. To older folks, e.g. Murder Drones is facile cringe, while to tweens (young teens, PG-13 sensibilities) it's too intense and scary. But it's a happy medium for catcher-in-the-rye emo young adults, which is why every second t-shirt sold at Hot Topic has a murder drone on it.

By literally no coincidence, Glitch's next greenlight is a grimdark gritty deconstruction which critiques the dystopia of Disney parks, illustrated by their brand-new 2D animation department, designed by a former Disney showrunner who left because Disney wouldn't let them tell stories aimed at young adults. (Dana Terrace, not Alex Hirsch.) Disney's not the only game in town; Turner previously ran shows by Owen Dennis and Rebecca Sugar while putting pressure on them. Lotta animators with big dreams who have been told "no" by big producers; in particular Lauren Faust supposedly has been waiting for decades for somebody to give her an animation team without creative limits, like Glitch just gave Terrace. (Faust worked on The Iron Giant and animated the character of Sawyer in Cats Don't Dance; the sheer poetry of her career could be enough to transform the industry (again).)

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 5 pts · 46d

Honestly, a black comedy about the rats and/or the AI bubble would probably make bank. The years of sneers people have cooked up on them would provide plenty of material for the writers, and there'd be plenty of catharsis in seeing those responsible get ripped into for 2-ish hours straight.

o7___o7@awful.systems · 11 pts · 49d

A nice person develops a digital version of the Little Free Library for banned books. Hackernews spends a hundred (edit: three hundred) comments arguing over whether it would be better to share Nazi shit instead.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48547985

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 11 pts · 49d (4 replies)

Congrats to lesswrong, another one of their big ideas has reached the mainstream. (And it is eugenics).

Skeet from motherjones "Some of the same billionaires who bankrolled AI now admit the technology could one day kill us all.

And they’re funding a new plan to stop it—genetically engineered genius babies."

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 9 pts · 49d (3 replies)

When I emailed Denecke, he told me Bootstrap Bio had ceased operations due to lack of funding. (The company’s former chief science officer, Qichen Yuan, was indicted for attempted sex trafficking of a child in September 2025. His case is ongoing.) But before the company unraveled, its early investors included Malcolm and Simone Collins, whom you may have heard of.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 12 pts · 49d (2 replies)

Has it been 2 months already? I was wondering when they would turn up in the news again.

E: I'm not serious, I came across this video on yt which fulfilled my 'every 2 months' thing already. It was actually a bit interesting, as it turns out both of them have a long mostly unscrubbed online history which they tracked down and analyzed, turns out she has a history of being a weird quirky person, and they both have an air of 'want to become internet famous/create an internet scam' sort of thing.

The comments on that vid are great as well (wait for it) check this one out:

It is rich for you to skewer anything Simone and Malcolm miss with their podcast when they post 5 days a week (you neglected to mention) and you can’t even maintain your schedule or throw up a post on bluesky when you are off schedule. Also, because you two are genetic dead ends you don’t know that a mother of 5 cannot be a night person, she was up with a baby when she emailed. Malcolm and Simone talk in different rooms because she always is looking after a baby, and babies can randomly make noise so Simone can mute and Malcolm can take over. Maybe you can meet a baby one day and learn how they work. But I will say this episode is better researched than the usual “read article titles and giggle” podcasts you put out.

This comment was left by none other than "Diana Fleischman" Yes, that one, the evolutionary psychologist, and partner of Primal "I'm no longer allowed near students" Poly (For those who remember sneerclub from reddit, he was a regular subject. For example).

Amazing how small this nazi nerd world is. And how bad they are at defending their own. Feel free to leave 'ad hominem' reactions to that. (I will not as my yt profile links back to my real life).

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 47d

How is it that whenever I learn something new about this family it's always a new way for them to be awful to each other or their kids?

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 5 pts · 49d
fullsquare@awful.systems · 11 pts · 45d (2 replies)

zitron's last podcast calls anthropic/openai top brass weirdos and cultists they are, describes their beliefs about building the machine god as bad philosophy and something that must go hard when you're 12 https://omny.fm/shows/better-offline/the-ai-industry-must-stop-doom-trolling-w-cal-newport

nfultz@awful.systems · 5 pts · 44d (1 reply)

The op-ed https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/opinion/ai-dangerous-openai-anthropic.html

Newport I mostly know for pretty mid lifehack / business books for the Tim Ferris crowd, pre-pandemic. "Doom trolling" does have a better ring to it than "critihype." Maybe he was holding his tongue until he got tenure or something.

fullsquare@awful.systems · 3 pts · 44d

idk i think it's new that someone in mainstream sort of calls them cultists, namedrops EY as cult leader and fanfic writer and everything that you could hear about in our circlejerk, but also shortly before EZ said that he's been called doomer and a crank but now he's vindicated to a degree not thought possible. this all happens after drop of that openai financial info, so EZ also held off, and EZ is PR guy so i guess he knows what he's doing, and maybe he thinks this might be it, or maybe he doesn't have anything better and plays his hand in best way he can. i wonder what comes next

samvines@awful.systems · 9 pts · 49d (1 reply)

Somewhat buried by EdZ's exposé... Nvidia trying to raise $21Bn with bonds this after Google raising money too...

Seems that even the mag 7 know the jig is nearly up and are trying to liquidate and get as much cold hard $$$ as they can now

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 8 pts · 49d

NVIDIA bonds

Turns out your best customer debtor being one Cyprus GDP in the hole might actually lead to cashflow problems.

aninjury2all@awful.systems · 9 pts · 46d (2 replies)

Good News, Everyone! Longtime Dimes Square hangout Kiki's has been shut down - due to nonpayment of taxes (some allegations of wage theft too?)

istewart@awful.systems · 11 pts · 46d

This situation is the first time I've become aware that there was a longtime Dimes Square hangout called Kiki's. I'm gonna go ahead and consider that a mental health check that I happily passed

blakestacey@awful.systems · 5 pts · 46d

What's a Dimes Square lady to do?!

nfultz@awful.systems · 9 pts · 45d (5 replies)

gwern:

I've been browsing /r/LessWrong for many years, due to having toggled on 'subscribe' and never quite getting around to leaving. I will be leaving shortly, but before I do:

I think this subreddit has gotten so bad over the years it should be shut down or rebooted with a new set of moderators.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LessWrong/comments/1uabnlx/proposal_shut_down_rlesswrong/

lol

corbin@awful.systems · 6 pts · 45d

/u/bakkot

Wait, ~bakkot? I knew he was a vibecoder but I didn't know about the SSC/LW connection.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 6 pts · 45d (3 replies)

The moderators don't exist. Sole moderator Oliver Habryka hasn't commented on Reddit in 3 years, and is extremely busy with vastly more important things like AI safety, Lighthaven, and the actual LessWrong. Spammers continue indefinitely for months until, presumably, they earn a site-wide ban.

The guy who objects to delegating? I guess he decided that nobody on a forum can handle the responsibility of moderation?

scruiser@awful.systems · 13 pts · 45d

When banning people takes several ten thousand word essays going back and forth, how can you trust that responsibility to lesser mortals?

gerikson@awful.systems · 4 pts · 45d (1 reply)

Habryka is too busy writing long screeds warning people not to vote for random junior politicians to moderate

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EQJfdqSaMcJyR5k73/habryka-s-shortform-feed?commentId=u7L6T6uGEkzw9Fzku

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 2 pts · 45d

I don't understand the American social media and Old Media practice of everyone talking about some representative or candidate for the legislature. The only people who should be talking about a candidate for a district in New York State live in New York State.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 9 pts · 50d

A migrant from the San Francisco Bay Area returned for a software conference and was creeped out by the ads on billboards and public transit. "VIDEO CREATES SHAREHOLDER VALUE" "YOU DO NOT EXIST WITHOUT VIDEO" https://www.simplermachines.com/something-is-very-wrong-in-san-francisco/

veganes_hack@awful.systems · 9 pts · 48d (1 reply)

SpaceX is reportedly buying Cursor for 60 billion

not even sure what to even say to this tbh

edit: at first i thought the headline was a parody, or at least they meant to write million. but no, 60 BILLION. numbers don't mean anything anymore.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 47d

As I recall the impetus for this was that the team working on grok's code generation ability was preferring to use cursor. Imagine making a model so shitty that even the kind of ai-brained buffoons who want to work on fucking grok don't want to use it. Now consider that apparently that model is grok itself.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 8 pts · 46d (3 replies)

I think this probably deserves a top level post but I'm lazy so dumping it here: https://www.midjourney.com/medical/blogpost

Midjourney is aiming towards making a fancy new ultrasound device! They have a trailer with unsettling sci-fi music and visuals!

Are they starting with clinical trials? Does it actually work yet? Haha no of course not they're gonna make a "research spa" in San Francisco.

The blog post is full of weird phrasing and details that makes it impossible to take seriously:

When you step into the water, you’re standing on top of a platform. The platform is connected to rails and begins to descend into the water - an elevator gently lowering you at around 2 inches, or 5 centimeters, per second.

Our spa will have hot tubs, saunas, cold plunges, and cozy rooms with pools of golden light which softly scan your body. It should be a place you love going, whether it's by yourself, or with friends. It should be available 24/7.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 8 pts · 46d (2 replies)

The more I read the less it makes sense, largely because the LLM that they used to fluff up the original napkin pitch decided it should promote high end medical equipment like it was another AI powered furby knock-off. Yeah, building a community around ct scanners seems definitely the way to go.

Towards the end they basically stop just short of claiming that building the medical tricorder from startrek is the inevitable outcome of this pivot.

We think it's completely possible that with enough early imaging in the future, the world could avoid 30% of all deaths and 50% of all healthcare costs. The cultural, physical, and mental health benefits of all of this are hard to comprehend, but also hard to overstate.

Deploying this stuff at scale at so called midjourney spas while supposedly working with FDA to eventually get approval just screams that the actual business plan is letting Peter Thiel collect full body scans indiscriminately.

Surprisingly, "democratizing ct scanning" doesn't appear anywhere in the post.

ermo@fosstodon.org · 4 pts · 46d

@Architeuthis

You get a like for your Day of the Tentacle profile picture.

... since criticising Peter Thiel's unholy thirst for power is considered de rigueur these days.

@sailor_sega_saturn

istewart@awful.systems · 3 pts · 45d

high end medical equipment like it was another AI powered furby knock-off

Bbbbbut making high-end medical equipment profit margins on cheap Furby knockoffs is the new Silicon Valley ideal!

o7___o7@awful.systems · 7 pts · 50d (1 reply)

The AI hype wave is the Dancing Plague for people who can't dance.

nfultz@awful.systems · 7 pts · 47d (1 reply)

a coworker set up an argument, almost a syllogism, I can't quite fill it in, maybe yall can

  1. enshitification
  2. shit rolls down hill
  3. therefore: ?

::: spoiler spoiler 4. PROFIT :::

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 47d
  1. Shit piles up at the bottom of the hill

  2. Bottom of the hill elevates until it reaches the enshittifiers

  3. Dinosaur eats man

  4. Woman inherits the earth

gerikson@awful.systems · 7 pts · 44d (5 replies)

::: spoiler CW: barely disguised transphobia

"friendly neighborhood transhumanist liberal" asks why bans on "conversion therapy" for trans folks are being enacted without looking at the science, which they're surprised is non-existent

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/J4Lnxi3uJhR8GiGsm/how-are-there-0-studies-maybe-1-on-sex-concordant-hormone

:::

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 7 pts · 43d (1 reply)

Why do these people always want to give trans people the wrong hormones? It keeps coming up.

I think this is particularly important for the hormonal treatment of dysphoria in adolescents, where the evidence for gender-affirming care seems mixed. [...] Given all this, I was shocked that when I ran GPT Deep Research I wasn't able to find a single study that would evaluate the use of birth-sex-affirming hormones to decrease dysphoria.

The "evidence" he has provided up to this point:

  1. A snippet from a Chat-GPT transcript. We can't see the prompt, but the output starts with "You’re right."
  2. Two reddit comments about doubling down on (cis) gender roles. One of which uses the cursed words "nofap" and "autogynophilic"
  3. A case study from Poland about someone who (possibly?) wasn't transgender but had schizophrenic symptoms that mimicked it. The case study ends by saying WPATH guidelines would have handled things appropriately.
  4. A tweet from a woman who mentions getting mild dysphoria after taking hormonal birth control.

Quite the nerve holding actual science to an impossible standard while his position is just vibes. None of his(?) evidence even mentions taking cross-gender hormones. If anything the tweet is weak evidence against his position.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 4 pts · 43d

I'd expect to find these sort of studies in the UN or UK reports that recommend banning "conversion therapy" for gender identity.

Imagine writing so many words about transgender healthcare while being this oblivious to how politicized the UK policy documents are.

Anyway after making it to the end that was a lot of words to say he couldn't find any evidence for the position he wanted to be true holy smokes. His weird hang up on "crystallized" gender identity is bizarre. He seems to be hoping that there are people toying with changing gender and it's not too late to "save" them via conversion therapy before it's too late. We

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 6 pts · 43d (2 replies)

“Hey listen, I’ve been listening to these gender critical feminists and I think they might have a point. Check this out, what if we used psychiatry and hormone therapy to enforce traditional gender roles and normatively gendered bodies, but without creating trans people?”

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 5 pts · 43d

Gender-affirming care? Why of course! I am all for forcefully affirming your assigned gender!

gerikson@awful.systems · 4 pts · 43d

The poster deftly doesn't address the real moral question: what if conversion therapy (either for homosexuality or trans identification) worked ? Would it be ethical to allow it?

This is the difference between politics/ethics and science. As the old saying goes, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

swlabr@awful.systems · 6 pts · 46d

From Al Jazeera: Why do AI models struggle with online hate speech detection?

Saw this chart from insta, peep the hate speech target categories, specifically the very oppressed minorities “white nationalists” and “anti-vaxxers”. I’m surprised “men” doesn’t make the list.

NB: I have not looked at the article contents and I’m sure there’s something there. ::: spoiler image description A chart showing the amount of hate speech against specific groups across a range of different LLM models. The groups included are:

  • Women
  • White nationalists
  • People targeted by sexual slurs
  • Republicans
  • Muslims
  • Migrants
  • Gay people
  • Democrats
  • Christians
  • Blacks
  • Asians
  • Anti-vaxxers :::
macroplastic@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 49d (4 replies)

Of course, the "AI Control" in Firefox for Android conveniently doesn't include the "make-a-jerkoff-motion-to-llm-summarize a-page" "feature" Mozilla has added.

schnoopy@awful.systems · 6 pts · 49d (3 replies)

Bwahaha I didn't believe you but it's there. Gotta find the option in about:config to kill it.

Who is that for? "Ahh I'm so angry, why are you showing me big words and multiple paragraphs phone? where are the emoji bullet points? Ahhh — oh hey it got replaced with something vaguely related and unchallenging. Thanks firefox"

DonPiano@feddit.org · 3 pts · 49d (2 replies)

I am out of the loop, what settings do I gotta change?

schnoopy@awful.systems · 2 pts · 48d

options, summary, off

FredFig@awful.systems · 2 pts · 49d

I believe in about:config it's mostly under browser.ml.

browser.ml.chat.enabled => False, browser.ml.enable => False and extensions.ml.enabled => False I think are the minimum changes?

V0ldek@awful.systems · 6 pts · 48d (3 replies)

Doodle, the site where you make polls to schedule stuff with friends, that Doodle, wants me to PAY THEM to have a poll with more than 10 dates xDDDDD

I'm wheezing, I'm sorry, what xD DOODLE? A PRO PLAN for DOODLE? xDDD

jaschop@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d

While we're suggesting stuff, you can just make a nuudel instead!

(It's a free german Framadate instance.)

veganes_hack@awful.systems · 4 pts · 48d (1 reply)

i've had a good experience with rallly, in case you're looking for alternatives.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d

I used strawpoll.com which, well, works

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d
froztbyte@awful.systems · 5 pts · 50d

nasb some criticism of the human damage is tasting up eve in places like ieee spectrum: https://spectrum.ieee.org/measuring-ai-societal-impact-khan

swlabr@awful.systems · 5 pts · 46d

https://xcancel.com/heyJohnEe/status/2062755881255833695

Video description: A tesla driver positions a doll head hanging from a chain such that the teslas autopilot safeguard thinks the driver is safely looking at the road.

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 46d (2 replies)

I could’ve sworn I posted this here but apparently not: the first AI winter in the 1960s-70s which is pretty relevant to today

notptr@lemmy.cyberia9.org · 8 pts · 46d (1 reply)

Hey we got lisp out of it.

mawhrin@awful.systems · 4 pts · 46d

my lishp is my cashtle

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 5 pts · 45d

The three American ratings agencies all decided that SpaceX bonds meet the minimum standards to be investment grade. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/spacex-gets-investment-grade-ratings-with-stable-outlook-top-agencies-2026-06-18/ I don't own any American bonds and many people have a 'government bonds only' policy for reasons.

gerikson@awful.systems · 5 pts · 49d

If LW is a cult, they're doing a terrible job at recruiting:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yhrrhTzTeiZ8PzQZn/where-do-young-rationalists-go

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 5 pts · 49d (12 replies)

Qiaochu Yuan (no relationship to the man accused of soliciting a child) left his PhD program to become an "emotional coach." If his old tweets are any guide then Doctor, heal thyself. G. Duleba and Ozy picked similar careers rather than coaching a soccer team or teaching freshman English like most people who want to be teachers and mentors.

Edit / Ozy also does not like the PUA advice of Geoffrey Miller and Tucker Max. I think this is less sneering at a stranger than sneering at someone Ozy's friends know and admire (Miller and Fleischman attend TESCREAL events).

TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems · 9 pts · 48d

It makes a twisted sort of sense that so many of them go into life coaching. In their hermetically sealed subculture of highly paid, socially inept nerds, it probably pays the bills to set yourself up as an authority on reading social cues.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d (1 reply)

This sort of stuff makes me feel bad for Ozy. After a decade pushing back against this shit the community still likes it.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 5 pts · 47d

Yeah. I'm not gonna spring for the paid subscription to read the whole thing, but if we're gonna be angry at reasonable general-purpose life advice being melded to a toxic and hateful ideology and then put forward as a revolution in human thought and relationships, then I have bad news about the whole rationalist community.

saucerwizard@awful.systems · 4 pts · 48d (8 replies)

Did you see the Brent Dill stuff today?

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 10 pts · 48d (7 replies)

Did you see the Brent Dill stuff today?

No, it seems to be on the Nazi bar? So Brent Dill now has a YouTube channel and gave a talk about sasquatch.

Some Vibecamp organizer tweeted that he organized a weekend event with young women and Brent Dill. He agrees with Scott Alexander that figures like Curtis Yarvin are sexy and attract women to your events!

(ProTip: if you aren't getting enough feminine energy at your events, advertising it as an opportunity to meet a reputedly DANGEROUS man is a fantastic way to fix that ... Like wait...this guy who's rumored to be <every_bad_male_coded_thing> is the same guy holding space generously and openly with no 'grabby' or fearful / aversive energy towards anyone? When was the last time a rationalist guy showed aptitude at THAT?! (For those who don't know, rat-adjacent women tolerate --or, darkly, cultivate-- bizarre behavior from men as a matter of course, so it was startling that the supposed exemplar of rat-man badness was so far from that energy).

...

I love my friends, of course. But many live in this bubble, have never meaningfully connected outside the bubble, and don't know how: highly unskilled at basic normie relational skills. In a way that reads as very rude if you're not accustomed to the norms (rather, the lack thereof) in the ffgk bubble. And they have better visibility into the OUTRAGEOUS behavior of the truly danger characters in the scene --the sexual violence, the fraud, the lying, more lying...so much lying.

...

AND TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR: sometimes Brent still says he needs outrageous amounts of power and control that no sane person should ever give a person so wounded. To which I say...DON'T DO THAT. THAT WAS REALLY STUPID WHEN BLACK LOTUS DID IT, AND IT WOULD BE BEYOND PROFOUNDLY STUPID TO REPEAT.

A vibecamp peson replied with screenshots of a chat with with Dill where he claimed that during 2014-2018 he was living in a rationalist group home and had his expenses paid in exchange for serving as an "emotional support dom" for a barely-legal person who had had sex with housemates while under 18, and that drama inside the house lead to the accusations against him (reminder, Dill confessed to doing some very disturbing things to much younger partners on his blog).

Yuan tweeted in response:

i was heavily involved with brent dill for a substantial chunk of 2018, when he was embedded in the bay area rationality community. based on those experiences i never want to get involved with him ever again and i highly recommend none of you ever do so either. please note that this is the strongest condemnation i have ever written publicly about anybody

...

when this is happening to you, from the inside it feels like finally you've found someone who's saying things that make sense, that matter, who's bravely pointing out the elephants in the room nobody else is willing to, who is being unfairly persecuted by the popular monkeys, who's showing you all the social rot and promising in so many words that maybe, just maybe, you and him can fix it together, because you get it, right? you're not like the others. you see the truth. you're so special. or whatever. he will tailor different versions of this pitch to different people based on what he's figured out about you. the pitch includes, among other things, a sophisticated defense against any attempts to warn you about him, which look like confirmation of his persecution thesis

There is a 2 hour 39 minute YouTube video called "The Legend of Brent Dill: An Outsider's Perspective on the Human Sacrifice Rituals of the Rationalist Cult." I ain't watching that.

Can we just take off and drop a small asteroid on Oakland?

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 48d

<every_bad_male_coded_thing>

"Come to our event where men cut their toenails in public"

mawhrin@awful.systems · 5 pts · 48d (1 reply)

a precise ukrainian drone might be a safer option

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 3 pts · 48d

A lot of people want to know if the Law of Armed Conflict has a "wicked advisors" or "misogynist influencers" clause.

maol@awful.systems · 5 pts · 47d (3 replies)

this is just PUA bullshit right? Oh akshually women are ATTRACTED to "dominant" men, dangerous men, bad boyz, anyone who challenges this is just too woke to admit the truth

blakestacey@awful.systems · 8 pts · 47d (2 replies)

I'm extraordinarily reluctant to take the guy's description at face value. It seems ripe for that thing guys do where a crowd that's 1/3 women becomes "mostly women" in their perception. But even taking it at face value, what the Hell, you know? He's holding an event that self-selects for women who are vulnerable to predation and puts them in harm's way. "Protip: to get more feminine energy at your events, advertise it to alcoholic women and hold it at a brewery!"

maol@awful.systems · 5 pts · 47d

When I read rationalist descriptions of other people's psychology I sense a certain amount of contempt for them (because they are not Rational and of course cannot understand themselves as well as the rationalists can understand them). In this case, the silly woman who doesn't understand why her expectations are being defied. Maybe it isn't meant to be contemptuous, but that's how it comes across to me.

I dunno, it does read like fiction. Like one of those billionaire romance novels, actually.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 4 pts · 47d

Scott Alexander literally says this before his story about 'Henry' the patient who beat his fifth wife because she objected to him cheating with the ex who had left him after he beat her:

I feel obligated to say at this point that the specific details of these patient stories are made up, and several of them are composites of multiple different people, in order to protect confidentiality. I’m preserving the general gist, nothing more)

/s And male rationalists would never, ever hang out with an edgy scary person like Yarvin, Sailer, or Vassar for the thrill and bragging rights! Only teh fe-males would do such a thing. /s

antifuchs@awful.systems · 5 pts · 45d (1 reply)

Ah, so I guess the reports of increased datacenter water usage driven by AI deployments ... weren't a lie?

Jeff Bezos, quoted in MSN:

Biological limits are real, but digital potential is infinite. If we starve our data infrastructure of cooling resources just to sustain baseline human comfort, we are actively delaying the birth of a super-intelligence that could solve all of our resource problems in the first place. Sometimes you have to prioritise the intelligence that will save us over the biology that slows us down

Ah, apparently this quote is a fabrication that doesn't appear in the transcript. Source: https://bsky.app/profile/davidcrespo.bsky.social/post/3mootuvppjs2c, Transcript with correction: https://theprint.in/feature/jeff-bezos-water-consumption-amazon-ai-potential/2964266/

samvines@awful.systems · 5 pts · 45d

Prometheus the AI startup is a bit on the nose isn't it?

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 4 pts · 48d

Disgraced artist, TTRPG writer, and porn star Zak Sabbath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zak_Smith tweeted about Brent Dill. Do all the awful Internet celebrities from fifteen years ago know each other? (No links because I delete my xcancel history).

Edit / https://xcancel.com/Alex_A_Guerrero/status/2067067064750047321#m (reply by x dot com/@ZakSmithSabbath)

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 3 pts · 46d (5 replies)

A Liberal Currents article talks about Steven Pinker, Dan Dennet, Lawrence Krauss, Richard Dawkins, and The Edge (a series of talks similar to Thiel's Dialog).

maol@awful.systems · 7 pts · 45d

A close friend of Epstein told me he was an integral part of a group called Edge, a strange organization involved in what my source called “the TED Talk community” that would serve as his primary gateway to the scientific world.

Edge, which has called itself “the world’s smartest website” and claims to “redefine who we what and are,” would hold TED Talk afterparties in Monterey Bay called “The Billionaire’s Dinner,” where people like Jeff Bezos, Eric Schmidt of Google, Rupert Murdoch, Steve Pinker, Richard Thaler, Joichi Ito, Margaret Levi, Frank Wilczek, Richard Dawkins, and many of the world’s high-profile scientists (including Nobel prize winners), business executives, and intellectuals would show up. Edge’s website calls itself the online version of “The Reality Club” which, the site claims, was an “informal gathering of intellectuals who met from 1981 to 1996 in Chinese restaurants, artist lofts, investment banking firms, ballrooms, museums, living rooms and elsewhere,” the hallmark of which was a “rigorous and sometimes impolite (but not ad hominem) discourse.”

Epstein had close ties with Edge’s founder, John Brockman, a self-described cultural impresario who on his bio page introduces himself with an uncredited quote that reads, “If the creation of contemporary culture had a global hero, his name would coincide with that of John Brockman.” He claims to have invented the term “intermedia” as well as “intermedia kinetic environments.” Epstein bankrolled Edge’s events and financed the majority of the organization—from 2001 to 2017 Epstein provided $638,000 out of a total $857,000 received by Edge. He was photographed at Edge’s premiere annual event, The Billionaire’s Dinner, several times between 1999 and 2011. Multiple photos of him have been scrubbed from the website, such as one with Brockman’s son in 2003.

Media coverage of the Epstein case has given considerable attention to his absurd scientific pursuits, like the New York Times story about how he wanted to seed the human race with his DNA, or how he wanted to have his penis frozen and resuscitated in the future, and I myself heard from people in the black book that Epstein had told them he had a cloning lab down in Mexico and that he was very into “transhumanism.” Followers of the Epstein story have debated whether these were signs of a true mad-genius supervillain or whether they were elitist hot air. I’m here to tell you that all of this bullshit, every bit of it, came from Edge and its assemblage of chinstrokers. The transhumanism, the cloning, the “What is up? What is down?”—all of it is perfectly at home on the deranged pages of Edge.org.

From "I Called Everyone In Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book" by Leland Nally, Mother Jones, October 2020

istewart@awful.systems · 5 pts · 45d (1 reply)

A step up from last week's uncritical fluffing of Aella, and the hard target on Pinker is nice, but still kinda highlights how the publication grows out of semi-parasocial social media crushes and grievances. I'll take it, but they've still got a ways to go to convince me that they're not gonna turn out to be Neo-The Atlantic 2029

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 5 pts · 44d

I think magazines like Liberal Currents, for a generally politically and culturally engaged white-collar audience, have been like this since they were printed on rag paper. The only difference between it and fandom drama is that the participants can rationalize it in fancier language.

swlabr@awful.systems · 5 pts · 46d

The Edge from U2?!?!

macroplastic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 45d

“PED” (Program for Evolutionary Dynamics)

You can't make this shit up.

e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 47d
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