This is why I say it's good when gas prices rise and become less affordable. Yes, having less access to fuel harms people but it's hard to believe that harm is more than the harm of burning fossil fuels.
If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people.
Actually, do you have links for all, would be really nice to have evidence to back myself up next time I have to speak to a stupid climate change denier.
1 in 5 human deaths. If you compare it to total deaths humans cause it is minuscule. We kill 3 trillion animals a year (mostly for pleasure) vs the 4 million human deaths from fossil fuels.
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agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 71d
Uh, you got a source on that 1 in 5 number? Not saying it's wrong, but that's a pretty bold claim.
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 71d
Sure, there ya go.
jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 71d
holy fuck
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 71d
This is why I say it's good when gas prices rise and become less affordable. Yes, having less access to fuel harms people but it's hard to believe that harm is more than the harm of burning fossil fuels.
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 71d
Capitalism burns trough resources too quickly. We should be conserving that oil until we have local food production for everyone
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 71d
If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people.
andresil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 71d
Actually, do you have links for all, would be really nice to have evidence to back myself up next time I have to speak to a stupid climate change denier.
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 71d
In hindsight, I should have attached those right away
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/antarctica-winter-heatwave-hits-record-15-4-c-alarming-scientists/ss-AA25zBRr
https://ourworldindata.org/world-lost-one-third-forests
https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2023/10/10/study-finds-climate-change-could-render-india-and-the-indus-vall.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-made-materials-now-weigh-more-all-life-earth-combined-180976522/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd
https://hsph.harvard.edu/climate-health-c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
Wildly different from the given claim. There is nothing in the article that suggest 80% of rivers are currently experiencing hypoxia.
This kind of posting invites doomerism.
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 71d
I am the
jokergovernment babylookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
1 in 5 human deaths. If you compare it to total deaths humans cause it is minuscule. We kill 3 trillion animals a year (mostly for pleasure) vs the 4 million human deaths from fossil fuels.