The funny thing about deltav is that it's the same amount required even if it's something huge like that. The fuel needed to make the deltav changes but the actual change in velocity is the same no matter what you're moving.
It's still crazy to me that it's easier to fling something out of the solar system along the plane of solar rotation, than it is to get something above the poles of the sun. I understand why that is mathematically and physically. Still doesn't seem like it should work that way.
on a side note, it takes less fuel to transport stuff to the surface of mars, than to the surface of moon. the reason is because on mars you can aerobrake while on moon you have to spend fuel to decelerate.
You may want to look at how we did the Ulysses probe, by using Jupiter as a gravitational slingshot at about 80° relative to the solar plane of rotation, or the Solar Orbiter probe that is set to use The Sun as its gravitation slingshot when it reaches perigee. Thereby using the least amount of fuel possible, and turbocharging the eventual later deployment of solar sails.
I mean those are really cool, but I gotta get past mun dudes.
Did I mention how much I suck at ksp? There are not enough struts for my skill level. I recall enjoying building probes and then losing contact with them last time I played.
I find that when I'm sucking at KSP, going and playing Factorio or Dyson Sphere Program seems to help with my return to KSP.
Oh, and I'm a singular dude, not plural.
Also, it is counterintuitive, but it's actually easier to get to Mars, rather than Mun. You need a lot less fuel because you can use atmospheric braking.
Oh sorry about the plural. A little higher than usual and projecting I guess, or a typo or something.
That is a good tip. I'm mostly just fucking around with the tech tree and trying to play the game as intended non-sandbox. But then I blow up something I worked too hard on, get frustrated, save, set all my probes to hit kerbal home base in a flurry of destruction and go play no man's sky where I only blow up when I want to
Apparently it's more because of inertia and the rotational spin of The Sun affecting the entire solar system, than anything else. Which actually makes me wonder if Voager and Voyager II will have issues once they fully pass beyond the heliopause.
Apparently our star, and therefore the rest of the solar system, moves around the galactic disc in the direction of galactic spin, but it wobbles "up and down", as well as possibly "left and right" as it orbits the galactic center every 225 million years, or so.
The reason that Voyager, Voyager II, and pretty much every single other probe we send outwards might have some issues once they pass the heliopause is that our solar system is a bit tilted compared to the galactic plane of rotation. They may encounter some background inertia that we didn't account for.
I can believe the design is accidental (an L makes a wonderful and easy building shape and four of them make a square. NO NOT THOSE FOUR basically) but it is right on the edge of reasonable doubt. Like, I haven't just visited San Diego, I spent a month there couch surfing at my friend the elephant trainer's during a brief residency. Maybe it's a northern/southern California rivalry bullshit thing, but San Diego feels... weird. Not good weird. It felt like it was more influenced by the desert and Phoenix than by the ocean and Mexico. The personality of the city just didn't fit. And that building fits perfectly in that incongruity.
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Codpiece@feddit.uk · 51 pts · 64d
There would still be a lot of people denying the climate had changed.
y0kai@anarchist.nexus · 44 pts · 64d
wow I can't believe they fit the whole world in there!
/s
Hupf@feddit.org · 7 pts · 64d
They missed a tiny bit tough.
I'm talking about
of course.
essell@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 64d
It'll take a lot of Delta V to get the whole country up there but might be worthwhile
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 64d
The funny thing about deltav is that it's the same amount required even if it's something huge like that. The fuel needed to make the deltav changes but the actual change in velocity is the same no matter what you're moving.
essell@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 64d
Neeeeeerrrd
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 64d
(i'm not good with the photoshop can someone turn the bullies into kerbals?)
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info · 3 pts · 61d
youre in the sciene memes community what did you expet
essell@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 61d
Selling errors
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 64d
It's still crazy to me that it's easier to fling something out of the solar system along the plane of solar rotation, than it is to get something above the poles of the sun. I understand why that is mathematically and physically. Still doesn't seem like it should work that way.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 4 pts · 64d
on a side note, it takes less fuel to transport stuff to the surface of mars, than to the surface of moon. the reason is because on mars you can aerobrake while on moon you have to spend fuel to decelerate.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
I actually already knew that, thanks to KSP, but thanks for reminding me.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 64d
what if you designed your vehicle to explode safely on impact?
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 2 pts · 63d
you mean a series of small controlled explosions? like a car engine?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 63d
no, just one big one. lots of debris. kerbals everywhere
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 2 pts · 63d
decentralized kerbal deployment. smart if you want to seed a large area at once.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
you just inspired me to test this in ksp because i suck at that game
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
You may want to look at how we did the Ulysses probe, by using Jupiter as a gravitational slingshot at about 80° relative to the solar plane of rotation, or the Solar Orbiter probe that is set to use The Sun as its gravitation slingshot when it reaches perigee. Thereby using the least amount of fuel possible, and turbocharging the eventual later deployment of solar sails.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qbCCSDBRAlE
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
I mean those are really cool, but I gotta get past mun dude
s.Did I mention how much I suck at ksp? There are not enough struts for my skill level. I recall enjoying building probes and then losing contact with them last time I played.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
I find that when I'm sucking at KSP, going and playing Factorio or Dyson Sphere Program seems to help with my return to KSP.
Oh, and I'm a singular dude, not plural.
Also, it is counterintuitive, but it's actually easier to get to Mars, rather than Mun. You need a lot less fuel because you can use atmospheric braking.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 64d
Oh sorry about the plural. A little higher than usual and projecting I guess, or a typo or something.
That is a good tip. I'm mostly just fucking around with the tech tree and trying to play the game as intended non-sandbox. But then I blow up something I worked too hard on, get frustrated, save, set all my probes to hit kerbal home base in a flurry of destruction and go play no man's sky where I only blow up when I want to
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 64d
probably because the sun is so massive, and the heat, gravitational, solar flares would likely make that difficult.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 64d
Apparently it's more because of inertia and the rotational spin of The Sun affecting the entire solar system, than anything else. Which actually makes me wonder if Voager and Voyager II will have issues once they fully pass beyond the heliopause.
Apparently our star, and therefore the rest of the solar system, moves around the galactic disc in the direction of galactic spin, but it wobbles "up and down", as well as possibly "left and right" as it orbits the galactic center every 225 million years, or so.
The reason that Voyager, Voyager II, and pretty much every single other probe we send outwards might have some issues once they pass the heliopause is that our solar system is a bit tilted compared to the galactic plane of rotation. They may encounter some background inertia that we didn't account for.
tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social · 1 pts · 64d
You guys left Alaska and Hawaii behind! Gotta turn around.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 64d
Why not map all of Earth? It would fit.
tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social · 12 pts · 64d
That is all of earth? /s
0li0li@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 64d
It is. (See y0kai's comment for details)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
map? i thought this was aspirational
yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 64d
Anything but the metric system smh my head
JCSpark@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 64d
Why is there an outline of a chicken cutlet on Saturn?
T156@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 63d
Saturn can have a little chicken cutlet, as a treat.
expatriado@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 64d
where choosing for fascism takes you
fascicle@leminal.space · 8 pts · 64d
woah now lets not go putting down the hexagon by comparing it to such evil
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 64d
Coronado Navy Base - San Diego
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 64d
so they've been down in san diego forever. when'd they build that?
looks like the 1970s?
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 64d
1967 - They say, the design was accidental, for sure, I think, maybe a Freudian lapsus
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 64d
I can believe the design is accidental (an L makes a wonderful and easy building shape and four of them make a square. NO NOT THOSE FOUR basically) but it is right on the edge of reasonable doubt. Like, I haven't just visited San Diego, I spent a month there couch surfing at my friend the elephant trainer's during a brief residency. Maybe it's a northern/southern California rivalry bullshit thing, but San Diego feels... weird. Not good weird. It felt like it was more influenced by the desert and Phoenix than by the ocean and Mexico. The personality of the city just didn't fit. And that building fits perfectly in that incongruity.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 64d
i have dreams too. we can put her there
Jakylla@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 64d
Hexagon hurricane season isn't it ?