Sauron has good political instincts, I'll give him that

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CubitOom@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 56d (1 reply)

Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

chaogomu@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 56d

Not in Russia. Some Russian that I can't remember wrote a book that was basically that. Called "The Last Ringbearer".

aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 56d

He drained Mordor.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 56d (1 reply)

yet he didn't build more doors, for a place called Mordor there's like one one gate.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 55d

It was reference to size. as in i need more door here.

pdxfed@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 56d

Understanding the foibles of those he wanted to submit is indeed political instinct. Also to break apart alliances and sew division among those who could/would otherwise resist him.

RedStamp@piefed.social · 4 pts · 56d (1 reply)

I'm about 90% sure that the last image is of Morgoth, not Sauron.

Firstly, Morgoth most famously wielded a mace (the original Grond) while Sauron didn't have any "famous" weapons. The mace here seems too featured to be coincidental. Second, the landscape seems to reflect what I would expect from a rendering of Angband rather than Mordor. Finally, the helmet appears more like Morgoth's iron crown than Sauron's film appearance (and a far cry from any of Sauron's descriptions in writings).

Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 55d

Maybe, it's hard to tell from the low quality image (not knocking OP here).

But original Grond usually has flames coming out the head of the mace in most artwork I've seen, and I cannot see it there. Morgoth also tends to have large pauldrons spikes and his crown often has more than 2-3 spikes coming out of it (but some images do show 3 large spikes, others have many more).

That said you can also find huge variety in his depictions across many different artists, and it's not like there is a massive style difference between him and Sauron - Plus Sauron being a shapeshifter also makes it harder to definitively tell them apart as he has no set image or appearance.

Edit: Was looking this up and found the image on theTolkien forum - Apparently the battlefield depicted shows Sauron overlooking his Orc army at Gorgoroth

https://thetolkien.forum/wiki/Sauron

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d

Say... about that myth that wealthy investors create jobs by financing new business... Not really. Startups in general only create temporary jobs. Roughly 90% of them fail after a few years and those jobs disappear. Only about 10% create jobs that become lasting careers. Far more jobs are created when established companies expand because they're doing more business. In other words, customers are the real job creators.

ultranaut@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 56d (1 reply)
PugJesus@piefed.social · 3 pts · 56d

Classic

starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 56d

Sarumon is unironically a good manager