You Know About Flock Cameras, Meet Nema Nodes: They Turn Streetlights Into A Surveillance Network

https://tech.yahoo.com/cybersecurity/articles/know-flock-cameras-meet-nema-172104688.html

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trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 50 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I knew this shit was going to happen. And then eventually damn near invisible. Black mirror ain't got shit on reality.

ID10T@programming.dev · 19 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Some people view dystopian sci-fi as entertainment. Some people view it as a warning. What you can’t forget, though, is that some people view it aspirationally.

Malyca@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 32d

I couldn't watch it. I've seen two episodes and they disturbed me to my core with how plausible they were. Like Idiocracy, I could only watch that once and I think of it as a horror film rather than a comedy. Because of how plausible it was.

turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 25 pts · 33d (16 replies)

It's time for electronic weaponry to hit mass production. EMP gun tech can be refined and perfected outside of official labs these days.

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I wonder how well these spy devices would hold up if someone connected a horn antenna to an industrial magnetron and blasted them with 10-20 kW of RF?

Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 32d

Chris Voute describes that in his EMP weapons series

magnetron horn antenna microwave cannon

toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d

You should try, for science!

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 33d (7 replies)

I mean, you can build one yourself, but a real damaging version would require a lot of power.

Unfortunately due to the inverse square law, they don't have a very long range.

I guess a phased array emp would be the best way to do it.

Not easily done with the DIY hacky way of doing it with a coil and teaser generator, but I'm sure with some decent mosfets and transformers, it should be possible.

greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 7 pts · 33d (5 replies)

would it not be enabled by putting it on the end of a long stick?

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Lol, could work.

greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 5 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I can imagine a stick and just walking post to post touching each one while wearing a hi-viz with PG&E printed on it.

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 32d

If you can rig it to the top of a vehicle, you can get them faster maybe.

I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

At that point, just have spray paint on a stick. Or better, just a long paint roller.

greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 4 pts · 32d

Not all surveilance is optical. It might just be listening for your BLE chirps or other 2.4ghz traffic from your devices

T156@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d

Unfortunately due to the inverse square law, they don't have a very long range.

Possibly for the better. Last thing you need is people accidentally hitting a plane with one of them.

People already do it with lasers. Something that destroys the electronics would be even worse.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d (3 replies)

How? I've been trying my best to find a DIY EMP, and AFAICT, none of the ones that are easy to find blueprints or instructions to build actually create an EMP. They just short out spectacularly.

Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 32d

I posted one above, however given the height of many of these installations, I think the common piezo+coil demo mounted on either a telescopic floodlight bulb changing pole or a payload drone modified to shield the controller board (otherwise plan to replace the boards) would be simpler safer and cheaper.

Edit: actually since it’s a drone you can just suspend the coil by a string and rely on inverse square for shielding. Much lighter. Cheaper drone or stronger pulse.

N4kt0@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Because you need a fuckton of energy to produce an EMP capable of damaging anything. Unless you have access to military grade warheads or a low yield nuclear device, you can forget about it.

Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 32d

At distance yes. Close up it’s easy. Aluminum foil in your microwave easy.

dan69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

I’d rather there be a jammer when I drive

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 33d

Will be more fun to cut down.

WecottNow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d

Anyone feel like mapping out all the companies, how they're related, and boycotting them all in a Pressure Campaign?

ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 32d (1 reply)

You know about NEMA nodes, meet electricity: it turns special rocks into logic machines that can be used as a surveillance network.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 32d

Yeah so many legitimate uses for power outlets at the very top of street lamps.

Are people really this naive? Or is it sort of a self delusion?

lemmyng@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d

"Hi Nema Nodes!

Meet NEMA SCREWDRIVER!"

Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 33d

Guess they all have to come down just to be sure?

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 32d

What's their excuse this time? Is it "protecting children" again?