cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49729865
However you look at it age verification is a major change to the internet and our freedoms.
We've seen all kinds of legislation pushed through in the past, often even against major resistance.
What makes me suspicious this time is the speed at which some of the slowest bureaucracies in the world are adopting it and how it's happening in 20+ countries in parallel.
It's like they're all in a group chat, fast-tracking this before resistance can even form.
16 Comments
thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 36d
I like the idea, but question how to enforce without severe privacy invasion.
shani66@ani.social · 31 pts · 36d
The severe privacy invasion is literally the entire point
lime@feddit.nu · 19 pts · 36d
if they really cared about people's mental health, they would legislate against the companies purposefully building their apps to be addictive. legislaton like this is just another step towards forced identification on the internet.
Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 36d
The privacy invasion is the point, they don't give a shit about children
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 36d
Odd that all these Western governments started pushing for mass surveillance.... around the same time their citizens widely stopped supporting Israel due to it's genocide against Palestine.
Coincidence?
Maybe. Maybe not.
Deckname@feddit.org · 0 pts · 36d
The push towards authoritarianism can be explained without DA JEWWWWZZZZZ making all the calls behind the curtains. You know you can just critique the Israeli government and hate the genocide without antisemitism.
The authoritarian push is more likely to make opposition against our technofascist overlords harder and help them extract the last value from the rest, before capitalism collapses.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 36d
Oh look, another dipshit playing along with the Zionist narrative that Israel means "the Jews" instead of just a fascist, Zionist, imperialist shithole that attacks all of its neighbors and promotes fascism and state surveillance globally.
Hey dumb fuck, nobody here was being antisemitic. You pulled that right out of your ass, ironically, because I pointed out people are turning on Israel for their genocides and imperialism.
AND the fact our politicians have woken up to the fact they can no longer control the narrative with a free and open internet, with the greatest example being people turning on Israel
Deckname@feddit.org · 0 pts · 36d
No, nowadays i just see so many people who equate israel with dajewwzz, that it's become a reflex to point it out, that it's not the case.
Thanks for clarifying your position, nuance is important. Maybe try it without dipshits and dumbfucks next time, this might make you look better.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 35d
What the fuck is this moronic way of typing "the Jews"? Are you 12?
That is entirely a you problem. You're making an ass of yourself with stupid assumptions.
...maybe try not being a dipshit and a dumbfuck?
Every time any conversation is attempted to be had involving genuine criticism of Israel, not only is it bombarded with Zionist NPCs vomiting every tired Israeli propaganda talking g point, but its also bombarded with dumb asses like you falling for the Zionist propaganda that even suggesting Israel does any wrong, or holds great power over western nations, is a dogwhistle for antisemitism.
Why don't you stop fucking participating in any such conversation? All you're doing is helping the genocidal Israeli cause.
Hey dipshit, you came in here spewing the Zionist defense with zero reason to do so whatsoever. The bar isn't lower than you.
Deckname@feddit.org · 1 pts · 35d
Ok, cool.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 36d
A ban for children (& teenagers) is a ban to privacy for everyone.
r0ertel@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 35d
I'm so glad that the governments are finally starting to realize that they're better at raising our children than the biological parents. We're one step closer to the Brave New World that we all desire.
001Guy001@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 36d
They do not care about kids.
-Access to social media is "crucial for supporting youthful political engagement in contemporary democracy", allowing young people to express their political views and be exposed to other people's views, "to experiment with their political voice and to hone it through interaction with others." (https://phys.org/news/2025-01-explores-social-media-tool-young.html)
-We should ban harmful algorithms - the ones that "are implemented, not with the goal to make us happy or healthy, but to keep us engaged and maybe sell us something" - instead of completely prevent access to platforms. (https://www.fastcompany.com/91136834/new-york-social-media-algorithm-ban)
-We need to have better moderation of harmful content, abuse, hate, harassment, etc., and have a support system to help young people deal with issues they encounter.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 36d
The whole privacy debate aside, why the fuck can we not agree on one age?
France wants 15, in Germany 13 was floated, elsewhere it's 16. Wtf are we doing here
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 36d
Because its all snake oil thats based on nothing. It will always be 13-18 as this is the area they can get away with - teenagers will be the sacrificial lamb where all the focus will be brought towards children.
But why are teenagers included? Because they have greater ambitions than just children. And every one of these states has their own fascist strategy for totalitarianism.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 35d
Countries don't agree on the appropriate age to drink alcohol, or drive a car, why would they agree on this?