What would you do with £16k of tax payer's money? I suppose pay your tax bill maybe? 🤔
Angela Rayner tells BBC she will not repay severance payment
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27mg0erd3o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27mg0erd3o
What would you do with £16k of tax payer's money? I suppose pay your tax bill maybe? 🤔
24 Comments
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app · 18 pts · 29d
If an employer offered me 16k to leave I'd happily take it. If they then offered me my job back, I'd probably go. If they then asked for the 16k they paid me, they can get fucked.
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 28d
At this point it's not even the same employer. Starmer is gone, Burnham is the employer now.
Absolutely no obligation whatsoever. I think those arguing differently either don't understand or are holding this person to a higher moral standard than they would others or themselves.
like@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 28d
Well quite but nobody would be very likely to notice. But if you you lived in Manchester and worked in London and got the sack from your job as housing secretary for avoiding tax on your nice new flat in Brighton, copped the sixteen grand payoff and was reappointed to housing secretary within a year that's a bit different isn't it?
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app · 5 pts · 28d
Not really, why would it change my decision? If I was sacked, paid, rehired to the exact same job I'm not giving the money back. I don't think you would, I don't think you should. Why would it be different?
Surely the failure was in the tax avoidance? Or, the failure is in the golden parachutes politicians seem to get?
like@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 28d
edited for clarity: Of course the sticking point exists in both the tax avoidance & reward for failure and of course I wouldn't turn down the cash if it were me. But she and hypothetical us aren't in the same position. Rules must apply more strictly to custodians & enforcers of those same rules
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app · 3 pts · 28d
So we mostly agree then. Neither of us would have acted any different about the 16k then. The 16k is a complete non-issue.
What should and what is are rarely the same. To be politically aware is to be constantly confronted between the difference of what should, and what is.
I dunno, in the face of 5+ million (Reform), duck motes (Conservative), and an actual genocide (Labour), this feel like such a strange thing to devote this much energy to.
like@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 28d
Yeah probably. If I found a score on the pavement I wouldn't stick up any posters about it. 16k in notes? I might have that as well, no need to trouble the constabulary
This is where we diverge. Enforcers of 'should' even if they just recently inherited the responsibility should do as their own rules oblige them to do
It's the subject of the post. I'll comment about other matters on other posts, energy allowing. I can't always be bothered
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 28d
Didn't I say that she should have paid the tax? That's what their own rules oblige them to do. I think we agree on this point too. Could you expand on why you think we diverge here?
You don't think this happened. You don't think this is analogous to what happend. If you were sacked from a job, given 16k, rehired for the exact same job, I wouldn't expect you to give the 16k back.
Why craft farcical hypotheticals about a point you already conceded?
like@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 28d
It's very possible that it's late and i'm talking a lot of shit. But I think the point was that if you are appointed housing secretary and you get sacked for fucking up your own housing affairs, then you get paid off to the tune of sixteen grand (still on backbench salary mind you), then less than a year later you're made housing secretary again, it looks pretty grim to keep the cash and the flat and go i'm alright cunts, how about you?
kip@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 29d
i know this was all gone over at the time but fuck me. the excuse for dodging stamp duty was that her house was held in a trust fund for her kid who was 17 at the time
five minutes or so on the gov.uk stamp duty website gets you:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/stamp-duty-land-tax-buying-an-additional-residential-property
this counts as expert tax advice apparently
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 29d
Absolutely within her rights, stay mad.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 29d
Hahaha 🤣
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 29d
COVID fraud costs: > £10,000,000,000
You're mad about: £16,000 she was legitimately paid
Utterly deranged to focus on pennies while ignoring the daylight robbery.
https://www.spotlightcorruption.org/press-release-covid-19-inquiry-reveals-scale-of-uk-pandemic-ppe-procurement-failure/
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 29d
Holy shit left field Batman
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 29d
Where did you understand I am ok with COVID fraud? No need to make things up, friend. 👍
No matter how large the amount of public funds wasted it is all shameful. The answer was simple the first time this came up: pay your taxes. Surely you're not defending tax avoidance?
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 29d
The £16k has nothing to do with tax avoidance.
£16K is also so in the weeds, it's a bizarre thing to focus on.
If your boss offers you severance pay take it, if they offer you your job back keep it!
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 29d
From the link
Fair play to you if you think £16k is "in the weeds". I don't live such a lifestyle.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 29d
UK budget is >£1,300,000,000,000 and your focused on £16,000 that's about a 1/3 of the cost of a single cop or 1/2 a binman.
Get some perspective pretending it's a big deal is daily Mail shit.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 29d
Feel free to throw £16k my way then? Or a nurse. Or a junior doctor. Please. It's not a big deal apparently?
meejle@piefed.world · 3 pts · 29d
I still can't believe he put the stamp duty one back in charge of housing 💀
tyranny@crazypeople.online · 0 pts · 29d
i am in favour of tax avoidance