cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68408297
GrapheneOS duress PIN could land a man in prison
https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-duress-pin-us-prosecution-3691271/
https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-duress-pin-us-prosecution-3691271/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68408297
11 Comments
PineRune@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 19d
So who's really in the wrong here?
MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 19d
As a guy who knows nothing about the laws here:
If those were cops, that search and seizure would be completely illegal and they would get laughed out of court. You can't force someone to give you their password.
Now these were border people. That part of the american justice system seems already pretty lawless. Whether or not they are allowed to do what they did will be a central part of the case.
Also they pressured him to give them the code to unlock the phone and seemingly typed it in themselves. So maybe you can argue that it was their fault for not researching GrapheneOS and they destroyed the evidence.
This whole thing seems stupid and about some power tripping border-guards.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 19d
I doubt this is going to go to court. They wouldn't want to risk setting a precedent with a small fry like him.
Edit: I take it back. Apparently he was charged late last year, and it's hitting the news again because they just had the first hearing. Hopefully he gets acquitted.
MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 19d
Watch them drive it all the way up to the supreme court and suddenly encrypted drives are illegal for civilians or some dumb shit like that XD
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 19d
You surely mean the fascist government needs no pretext to put a man in prison.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19d
Won't be long I feel before the same charge is levied on someone that wiped their phone hours before going through security.
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 19d
Interesting, I had wondered if/when we'd get a story like this. It seems kind of crazy to me that this guy chose to wipe it in the airport instead of before traveling, particularly if the US actually has laws that allows it to prosecute him in this scenario.
DishonestBirb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19d
It’s not an issue of him ever thinking of choosing to wipe it during his travel, he clearly had no initial intent of doing so, which is why he didn’t do it before departing . What’s caused all the legal issues is that he decided to give his duress pin when his actual pin was demanded by the US border guards. The border guards entering that pin caused the device to reboot and factory reset. That’s why he’s in trouble. They’re claiming he purposefully caused evidence to be destroyed when an investigation was already underway.
yestalgia@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 19d
It's not that crazy. Do you wipe your phone every time you travel? It's the most secure but least convenient option.
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 19d
I don't travel overseas often, so yes - I probably would wipe it the next time. Restoring from a backup is pretty quick and easy these days, so I would feel comfortable leaving it in a barebones state until clearing customs and border security.
But I also don't use GrapheneOS, nor would I ever use the duress PIN feature. I expect people using both to take their privacy and security more seriously than me and be willing to take the extra precautions rather than emergency wiping at the last minute when things go wrong. I feel like it's pretty dumb to be an anti-cop political activist in the US at the moment with GrapheneOS on your phone and then not look into or think about any of this stuff beforehand.
Batman@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
id say the security from law enforcement is one half of the threat model, but graphenos is also about protecting me from google selling my data for a dollar.