Ukraine struck an Iranian commercial vessel, killing at least one sailor and wounding several others. The ship, laden with steel, was sailing from Russia’s Astrakhan Port to Iran’s Anzali Port when it was hit.
Reason for title laid out in the article.
I think this is okay here. Mod please advise.
Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/12341161
14 Comments
UsernameHere@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 15d
Iran has been supplying Russia with drones for their invasion of Ukraine.
So Iran dragged themselves into the war already.
PotatoPie@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 15d
I talked to some Ukrainians on the platform about this and all they could do is claim foreign vessels are legitimate targets if they're part of a supply chain and supplement it with either racism or "Iranians are oppressed we're doing them a favor by attacking their government"
Just absolutely insane!
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 15d
nothing about this situation is sane, so we shouldn't expect it.
bookcover@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 15d
It just helps Russia and Iran to increase cooperation. Russia could ask Iran for manpower in return for technology know-how. Russia is struggling with manpower; Iran is struggling with know-how and technology
davel@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 15d
Russia’s struggle hardly compares to Ukraine’s. It hasn’t even formally declared war yet, which is required for full mobilization. It’s still fighting with one hand tied behind its back.
bookcover@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 14d
Russia should not need full mobilization. Ukraine should need full mobilization.
What is formally declared war, if today's fight is not a war?
Note: I am a neutral person and just seeking justice and balance
davel@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 14d
It unquestionably is a war de facto, but de jure within the state of Russia, it’s a “special military operation.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 14d
I don't know Russian law and what approval may be needed from the Duma, but if we're being honest and not overglazing Putin, I wonder if it's some similar reason to this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/call-war-trump-reveals-real-172604512.html
Wikipedia has a list of United States military conflicts, since our inception (it's long), and very few have been officially declared war.
I'm imagining Russia and any other state operated on similar bases, but obviously an not positive. And right now I cba ti ho digging, as I've other things to sort. Maybe I will if I have time and remember. Or maybe anyone else will.
davel@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 14d
Yeah, that’s why. In all contexts but one, this is a war. It’s only in the context of the Russian state, as a sovereign state with a body of law, that it’s an SMO.
No one disagrees that the Korean War was a war, but in the context of the US government & law at the time, it was a police action.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 13d
Neither is actually true, Russia still have more volunteers than needed to replace the losses, and Iran, at least in fields used in this war, is ahead of most of the world - including even USA.
bookcover@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 11d
The situation is different. Iran doesn't have a ground war. Israel or the USA can't sustain a ground war.
But this is reality: it is not sustainable. You don't want to lose your best engineer in the war, right? You should also think after the war
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 10d
Depends what you think "sustainable" means. Nobody ever think they can wage infinite wars (except maybe Americans who don't have any experience of actually dying in them in numbers) but so far it's been sustainable and barred some unexpected development like US nuking Russia it will be sustainable for as long as it would need to be to defeat Ukraine. About the engineers that's the neat part of country having functional education system (again unlike USA and Ukraine), unless they are nuked they won't lose that many of them in the war that it will be impossible to replace them. Russia is also not on the really war economy too.
Again, there was no mobilisation in Russia while Ukraine do massive manhunts on the streets.
bookcover@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 6d
After the war, Russia will need highly skilled manpower to surpass or catch the Western world technologically. As I know, dozens of them left the country and are currently living in Europe or the USA
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 5d
It would probably be quite easy considering how west only basically ride on accumulation and future of their research looks pretty bleak, militarily tech they have is already behind Russia as evidenced by Russia beating everything they throw at it. Those who left are libs so not very trustworthy plus i imagine rabid western russophobia will sooner or later make them go back, just as Chinese scientists are getting back to China.