Daunt mentioned that the chain “will consider selling AI-generated books if there’s clear demand.” He clarified that B&N wouldn’t “ban” credible books from reputable publishers, even if they are AI-generated, as long as they are properly published, labeled, and there’s concrete evidence of customer interest, like when a customer specifically requests a title. However, he added that B&N “finds it highly unlikely that there will be significant customer interest in AI-generated books, or that reputable publishers will choose to publish them.
So, they won't ban them because they have procedures in place for selecting books and they feel confident that an AI book would not make it through the selection process. Seems to be a more nuanced response than the headline implies.
Anyone remember when Assassin of Secrets came out 15 years ago? It was a detective novel that got middling reviews, but shortly after it came out, people realized that the whole book was plagiarized. Like, every word.
But the author didn't rip it all from one other book. They took sentences, phrases, paragraphs from dozens of different detective novels. It was like a collage of other, better authors' words copy-pasted into a weird amalgamation, a rough interpretation of the genre.
When that came out, the author was basically burned at the stake. Never had anything published again. The publisher had to refund booksellers. It was a whole to-do.
...I think about that book and how people reacted to it a lot when we talk about AI.
Interesting because there was an art movement in the 60s, I can't recall name now. But they would take a bunch of different books, cut out sentences and paragraphs, and scatter them all over the floor and mix them up. Then they'd spend weeks or whatever and arrange the sentences into new stories and new context. It was art.
To be honest, I like that idea of it. I think people get too caught in being outraged sometimes.
Context matters though. The above example was hidden from people and used for a profit. Your example is not for profit and was disclosed before making it. One is exploitation, the other is appreciation.
B&N should work on making their author-side of the website run better. Just an opinion of someone who put a few books on it. I would rate it and Tracfone at about the same level from my experience. And at least even with the crashes and errors, I can still get Tracfone's to eventually work.
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Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de · 26 pts · 22d
So, they won't ban them because they have procedures in place for selecting books and they feel confident that an AI book would not make it through the selection process. Seems to be a more nuanced response than the headline implies.
quantumlover@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22d
Like most articles these days. But you make a good point, so I updated the headline on my post, but the actual article still has the bait.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 14 pts · 22d
Anyone remember when Assassin of Secrets came out 15 years ago? It was a detective novel that got middling reviews, but shortly after it came out, people realized that the whole book was plagiarized. Like, every word.
But the author didn't rip it all from one other book. They took sentences, phrases, paragraphs from dozens of different detective novels. It was like a collage of other, better authors' words copy-pasted into a weird amalgamation, a rough interpretation of the genre.
When that came out, the author was basically burned at the stake. Never had anything published again. The publisher had to refund booksellers. It was a whole to-do.
...I think about that book and how people reacted to it a lot when we talk about AI.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 22d
I remember asking people when modern AI was first becoming popular why it became OK to plagiarize things by the word but not by the sentence.
quantumlover@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22d
Interesting because there was an art movement in the 60s, I can't recall name now. But they would take a bunch of different books, cut out sentences and paragraphs, and scatter them all over the floor and mix them up. Then they'd spend weeks or whatever and arrange the sentences into new stories and new context. It was art.
To be honest, I like that idea of it. I think people get too caught in being outraged sometimes.
Bael422@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
Context matters though. The above example was hidden from people and used for a profit. Your example is not for profit and was disclosed before making it. One is exploitation, the other is appreciation.
quantumlover@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 22d
Agreed.
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 22d
Barnes and Noble still exists?
whats_a_lemmy@midwest.social · 6 pts · 22d
If anything, they're better than they used to be
quantumlover@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 22d
It does. And they still release ereaders!
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 22d
B&N should work on making their author-side of the website run better. Just an opinion of someone who put a few books on it. I would rate it and Tracfone at about the same level from my experience. And at least even with the crashes and errors, I can still get Tracfone's to eventually work.