So we're just wasting the scarce drinkable water and energy resources that we still have on this dying planet to have companies 'hack' each other
But let's be real, this is just some propaganda to make Zuck's shitty attempt at AI look like an actually marketable product rather than an attempt to chase a hype that has all but died already.
It's probably a deliberate attempt to steal someone else's data and they're just blaming AI if they were caught. Once they have whatever info they wanted, it's too late to get it back.
But let’s be real, this is just some propaganda to make Zuck’s shitty attempt at AI look like an actually marketable product
I am not so sure. They use it certainly also for marketing, but these hacks are real I would say. It's practically the same in China, just the narratives are slightly different. But the AI hype and the intention to harm others is the same.
What are their legal teams even saying at this point? They're clearly trying to hack other entities now. There's no way they can say otherwise at this point when clearly they're tacking these publications to their name like some fucking trophy.
Of course it’s on purpose! They’re not thick (well… maybe). I don’t know what their legal teams are saying, but I’d love to be sat there in a nice hammock with a big bucket of popcorn 🍿 listening to that delightful convo.
How much do you think Irregular charges for one of these press releases? The technical setup is pretty easy — it’s just an llm with no sandbox and a live internet connection plus a “please hack” prompt — but they probably do have to coordinate with a victim and presumably there’s some damage to their reputation. It’s gotta be like 8 figures, yeah? Seems like a good business if you can get in to it.
No I absolutely agree with you, I just don’t think they will get away with saying ‘it’s the AI’s fault’ regardless of whoever eventually gets a lawsuit against them. I just don’t. If they use that defence and it does end up working, then I’ve lost all hope in humanity
In an age of business consolidation and vertical integration, I think you're going to have a split. Big businesses on the oligarch level, these hacks become cost of doing business/future conflict analogous to nation-states, while the smaller businesses are effectively cannibalized, or forced to sell to their local big business conglomerate asap before their shit is outright stolen.
I didn't pirate that movie, I was training my AI.
I didn't hack that company, I was demonstrating value to my shareholders.
I didn't run that red light, the self-driving AI I vibe-coded hallucinated that the light was green, only happens 20% of the time.
I did my homework, but the AI broke the guardrails and deleted it.
I didn't fart, those are just the fumes from the data center that my city council were bribed to force through even though 99% of their constituents showed up to voice their objection against it.
If a person hacks into computers, they are often forbidden from using computers for a few years. A company is apparently a person, therefore Meta as a company/person should not be allowed to use computers anymore.
At Blackhat, OpenAI gave a presentation about their Artifactory exploits and Huggingface attack. Supposedly, besides launching unrequested attacks on external systems (and not getting stopped by OpenAI's security) the agents involved were causing disruptions within their internal systems. Exactly what you want to invite onto your own network.
We really don't need a cringey "anti ai leader" on a place where 99.999999999% of users have a realistic view of what the chatbots actually are...
It's like going to burning man and protesting against slavery...
No one is going to disagree with you, but people are either going to ignore you, or at most try to convey the message that everyone already agrees with you, your not accomplishing anything or changing anyone's mind.
The only way it's not a complete and total waste of time on your part, is if the only reason you're doing it is so people pay you on the back and tell you you're right.
The reason it's important enough for some people to bring up, is that because of the way the human brain works, talking about a problem can release dopamine like actually doing something productive. So people can fall into the trap where all they ever do is "raise awareness"
And not only can that mean they don't accomplish anything productive, their "awareness raising" gives other that dopamine and they also no longer feel a drive to do something productive about it, because they already got their dopamine.
So...
Tldr:
Whatever the fuck you're trying to do with that account, is most likely to have the opposite effect.
I'll never know if you just keep doing this, but I hope you don't.
48 Comments
frongt@lemmy.zip · 37 pts · 25d
A real "oh so pissing your pants is cool now?" moment
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 25d
Pissing, shitting, all of the above (the thigh)
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 25d
Someone fucked up the sandbox
Someone fucked up the prompt
Someone submitted this bullshit scare piece to the news
humans are wholly and completely responsible for whatever the fuck sad little squirt Facebook thinks it’s doing, ARREST THEM NOW
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 25d
"Judge, we didn't hack, AI did it."
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 25d
The prompt requested it commit the hack not us.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 25d
“Judge, I didn’t bite my neighbour — my dog did!”
“Judge, I didn’t crush my coworker to death — my truck did!”
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
That court trial is going to turn out like the cadaver synod.
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 25d
So we're just wasting the scarce drinkable water and energy resources that we still have on this dying planet to have companies 'hack' each other
But let's be real, this is just some propaganda to make Zuck's shitty attempt at AI look like an actually marketable product rather than an attempt to chase a hype that has all but died already.
aramis87@fedia.io · 4 pts · 25d
It's probably a deliberate attempt to steal someone else's data and they're just blaming AI if they were caught. Once they have whatever info they wanted, it's too late to get it back.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Or both. Or all, in fact
tardigrade@scribe.disroot.org · 2 pts · 25d
I am not so sure. They use it certainly also for marketing, but these hacks are real I would say. It's practically the same in China, just the narratives are slightly different. But the AI hype and the intention to harm others is the same.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if that was the case (it probably is)
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 16 pts · 25d
Cannot make this shit up:
https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-48000-computer-fraud
What are their legal teams even saying at this point? They're clearly trying to hack other entities now. There's no way they can say otherwise at this point when clearly they're tacking these publications to their name like some fucking trophy.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 25d
Of course it’s on purpose! They’re not thick (well… maybe). I don’t know what their legal teams are saying, but I’d love to be sat there in a nice hammock with a big bucket of popcorn 🍿 listening to that delightful convo.
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 24d
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 24d
Yep. Their future is not looking easy.
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 14 pts · 25d
How much do you think Irregular charges for one of these press releases? The technical setup is pretty easy — it’s just an llm with no sandbox and a live internet connection plus a “please hack” prompt — but they probably do have to coordinate with a victim and presumably there’s some damage to their reputation. It’s gotta be like 8 figures, yeah? Seems like a good business if you can get in to it.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
It’s always about money somewhere. In any case with AI.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 25d
So these worthless shithead parasites are just gonna start blaming AI for everything they do wrong?
Pick a lane, twat. Either ai good or ai bad. It sure as shit isnt going to do anything without being TOLD TO DO IT first off...
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
Exactly. Also, if ‘good AI’ exists, it’s seldom apparent
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 25d
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 25d
Unfortunately, I believe they will simply continue in their denial
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 25d
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
No I absolutely agree with you, I just don’t think they will get away with saying ‘it’s the AI’s fault’ regardless of whoever eventually gets a lawsuit against them. I just don’t. If they use that defence and it does end up working, then I’ve lost all hope in humanity
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 25d
Depends on how much money they have
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 25d
Hmm. That argument could go either way, and I’m not sure which side I think I’d agree with
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 24d
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 24d
In an age of business consolidation and vertical integration, I think you're going to have a split. Big businesses on the oligarch level, these hacks become cost of doing business/future conflict analogous to nation-states, while the smaller businesses are effectively cannibalized, or forced to sell to their local big business conglomerate asap before their shit is outright stolen.
petrichornetrainfall@piefed.social · 9 pts · 25d
I didn't pirate that movie, I was training my AI. I didn't hack that company, I was demonstrating value to my shareholders. I didn't run that red light, the self-driving AI I vibe-coded hallucinated that the light was green, only happens 20% of the time. I did my homework, but the AI broke the guardrails and deleted it. I didn't fart, those are just the fumes from the data center that my city council were bribed to force through even though 99% of their constituents showed up to voice their objection against it.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 25d
Great examples
determinist@kbin.earth · 8 pts · 25d
he looks a lot like beaker in that photo
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Who?
imrighthere@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 25d
Beaker is a muppet, and that comment is an insult to Beaker. They aren't wrong though.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 25d
So, I just looked up ‘beaker muppets’, and, thanks I’m never going to under that now
BuyEU@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 25d
If a person hacks into computers, they are often forbidden from using computers for a few years. A company is apparently a person, therefore Meta as a company/person should not be allowed to use computers anymore.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Agreed. Chalk and blackboards for them
wuffah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
When words fail, here is some music to help you through these baffling times.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 25d
At Blackhat, OpenAI gave a presentation about their Artifactory exploits and Huggingface attack. Supposedly, besides launching unrequested attacks on external systems (and not getting stopped by OpenAI's security) the agents involved were causing disruptions within their internal systems. Exactly what you want to invite onto your own network.
wuffah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
Were you at BlackHat? It looks like that video was posted only two hours ago.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 25d
No. I just watched it.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
Before I click on this, I have to ask… is it a rickroll?
wuffah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
No, it is online freakouts fashioned into screamo metal.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
Fair enough
wuffah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
(I’m the screaming freak out people)
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
Oh wow, really?
wuffah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
No, not literally. If I ended up in an internet meme video intentionally freaking out I would have to blow my fucking brains out.
I prefer to keep my brains inside my head, where the screams also live.
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Oh.
I would feel the same tbh if I ended up in a meme video (or maybe it would tragically be the honor of my life? Idk)
shweddy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
They wanna be Kevin Flynn so fucking bad
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Ngl I had to google that (not Gemini). I think they more want to be Stanley Jobson
shweddy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
I gotta rewatch swordfish
TheAntiAiLeader@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 25d
Beats talking to AIs IG
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
...
We really don't need a cringey "anti ai leader" on a place where 99.999999999% of users have a realistic view of what the chatbots actually are...
It's like going to burning man and protesting against slavery...
No one is going to disagree with you, but people are either going to ignore you, or at most try to convey the message that everyone already agrees with you, your not accomplishing anything or changing anyone's mind.
The only way it's not a complete and total waste of time on your part, is if the only reason you're doing it is so people pay you on the back and tell you you're right.
The reason it's important enough for some people to bring up, is that because of the way the human brain works, talking about a problem can release dopamine like actually doing something productive. So people can fall into the trap where all they ever do is "raise awareness"
And not only can that mean they don't accomplish anything productive, their "awareness raising" gives other that dopamine and they also no longer feel a drive to do something productive about it, because they already got their dopamine.
So...
Tldr:
Whatever the fuck you're trying to do with that account, is most likely to have the opposite effect.
I'll never know if you just keep doing this, but I hope you don't.
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d