Like is doing nothing for Russia invasion of Ukraine. Both Russia and US have veto power. This makes the UN useless. Same issue with all organizations that allow vetos. The same issue why the EU is so toothless in foreign affairs.
But a UN would not exist without veto ruling. The only way for the UN to work is for powerful countries around the world not to commit war crimes.
The UNSC can impose embargos, arms bans, travel restrictions, assets freeze. Can authorize military actions and deploy peacekeeping military divisions.
The ICJ, the ICC, the IAEA, the ICAO, the IMO, works under the UN.
Most international treaties are under the UN. All the maritime border and nuclear proliferation agreements.
There is lot of stuff the UN does and can do apart from being a forum.
It's the consequence of the diplomacy happening in the UN, it's not the UN itself deciding to do something. The ones doing stuff are the member states, using the UN infrastructure.
Yes, and it is exactly what we are discussing: UN countries could vote to impose economic embargoes to Israel, but the US would veto it. That is exactly why the UN does not have power. The UN had power to embargo Iraq in 1990.
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Ragnor@feddit.dk · -9 pts · 2d
There is no sign of that. The US may leave or the rest create an alliance without them, but the rest of us have a strong commitment to each others.
Sputnik is spreading misinformation as usual.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 2d
LMAO.
UN is doing fucking nothing with the war in Iran or the genocide in Palestine. It's exactly what Grossi said.
encelado748@feddit.org · 1 pts · 2d
Like is doing nothing for Russia invasion of Ukraine. Both Russia and US have veto power. This makes the UN useless. Same issue with all organizations that allow vetos. The same issue why the EU is so toothless in foreign affairs.
But a UN would not exist without veto ruling. The only way for the UN to work is for powerful countries around the world not to commit war crimes.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
The UN isn't supposed to do things, it's supposed to provide a forum where everyone can be heard and where all can exchange views.
It doesn't have any tools to do stuff with.
encelado748@feddit.org · 7 pts · 1d
What? The UN does not have tools to do stuff?
The UNSC can impose embargos, arms bans, travel restrictions, assets freeze. Can authorize military actions and deploy peacekeeping military divisions.
The ICJ, the ICC, the IAEA, the ICAO, the IMO, works under the UN.
Most international treaties are under the UN. All the maritime border and nuclear proliferation agreements.
There is lot of stuff the UN does and can do apart from being a forum.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
It's the consequence of the diplomacy happening in the UN, it's not the UN itself deciding to do something. The ones doing stuff are the member states, using the UN infrastructure.
encelado748@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1d
Yes, and it is exactly what we are discussing: UN countries could vote to impose economic embargoes to Israel, but the US would veto it. That is exactly why the UN does not have power. The UN had power to embargo Iraq in 1990.
GardenGeek@europe.pub · 1 pts · 1d
The UN is as strong as it members allow it to be. Its a platform, nothing more nothing less.
Ragnor@feddit.dk · -3 pts · 1d
The UN isn't part of those wars. It is the US alone.
Besides, why isn't Russia doing anything about them? You have to look inwards before you can blame others.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 1d
And UN does nothing but did shit with Iraq.
Russia is part of UN... And Russia does shit for Iran and the countries fighting Israel...
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3h
???
mrdown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
Yes there is a sign to it. Countries are moving towads regional blocks like the Eu. I don't think russia want to lose it's veto power either
Ragnor@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 1d
I said that myself.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I am confused you said that there is no sign if it dying of. My comment ecolained how it does because everybidy is moving towars regional blocks
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3h
Westerners once again showing that they don't think the rest of the world exists