I did that during the great exodus. Actually, I replaced all my comments with random book quotes six times over the course of two years before finally deleting them. So, if you ever have a question about obscure data lifecycle management techniques, cybersecurity, Destiny, data center power optimization, etc., and the chatbot replies with an excerpt of Jane Eyre or an nutritional breakdown of a tablespoon of almond oil, it took it from a backup of my old reddit account.
Yeah, they replaced a bunch of mine at first. Its why I went through multiple iterations of text replacement over a couple of years. If they want to replace the text with the original, they'd have to a) notice that the text of the response.doesn't match the comment it's responding to, b) have to go back some random number between 5 to 8 iterations.
I deleted all of my content there several years ago, and even going through and searching the old archives, most of it has been deleted and overwritten.
Makes me sad because it was like a hundred k karma account, but worth it to prevent them from just turning all of my effort into a few extra pennies in their pockets.
On an iphone you can also just use the “remove distractions” tool to disappear the overlay that freezes the screen and tells you that you have to log in. After doing it the first time my phone automatically does it now and I can browse without issues. I only use it to search for specific questions/info at this point and its a good workaround to avoid that bullshit
If you're using Firefox for Android and have Ublock installed you open the Ublock menu and either select the element zapper (temporary) or element picker (permanent) to remove website objects
Just years of answer to questions that you could not Google because Google only shows sponsored results. We were so used to forums being forever that when we moved to Reddit and Discord, we did not consider the price of centralized information.
But also, just having a huge number of people on one platform makes for a lot more content on obscure topics. You can have a niche interest and find a whole-ass subreddit full of people with the same interest. There are definitely subreddits I miss. But not enough to wade through the cesspool that is Reddit to pick out the few remaining gems.
Yes, we can make similar communities on Lemmy, but without the sheer volume of eyeballs that Reddit has, there's next to no chance that such communities would take off. (I'd love to see an equivalent of /r/bestoflegal, but the only way that's feasible is for it to copy content from Reddit, which isn't really the solution I'm hoping for. /r/fuckhoa is endlessly entertaining, but again, way too niche to take off on Reddit. I think you all get what I'm saying here.)
I have found Reddit misses much more than hits when I was on there pre-Lemmy.
On topics where I have deep knowledge, I was drown out by people with a wrong answer and more karma. Once on something I was literally the creator of.
I can only assume other topics I know less about were the same way. It really makes me doubt what I see on Reddit. I assume ai and bots did not improve that.
For niche information I am actually going back to targeted web boards. While Lemmy is less entertaining, I have gotten some good quality information as well as conversation.
Initially if you browsed via a browser on mobile, it would force you to get the app or login. Now they've also (rolling disable) of old.reddit without logins (browser and mobile).
Yeah, that's shitty and not unexpected. Hopefully projects like Redlib find/maintain some kind of workaround for the long term, but I'm not all that confident.
I mean, "fake" (undisclosed bot use) accounts're still possible, so making sure said accts've joined a few slice-of-life/normie subs and seed the accts with innocuous questions, it should evade detection for a while... IANAP, so 🤷🏼‍♂️
It's being rolled out slowly. Old.reddit stopped working on my desktop yesterday but still works on my phone, despite being on the same internet connection.
FYI: old.reddit.com + Tor Browser in the "Safest" security setting (which disables javascript among other things) still works.
In other words, the most private way to browse reddit, still works. Though depending on your Tor exit node you might run into issues so just click the "new circuit" button to get a new Tor exit.
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OwOarchist@pawb.social · 50 pts · 13d
Why?
Because they want to monopolize AI scraping of their content, and they're trying to prevent scraping by companies that didn't pay for it.
Has literally nothing to do with the experience of the average user -- it's all about monetizing their user-submitted content as AI training material.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 13d
google is the main benficiary to the AI scraping along with openAI, which sells it to others like palantir down the road.
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 13d
"Oh, you were trying to look at a solution to a problem you have? Fuck you!"
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 13d
If it got walled, I wish people who posted years of content there would just delete it since it's no longer for general public
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 13d
I did that during the great exodus. Actually, I replaced all my comments with random book quotes six times over the course of two years before finally deleting them. So, if you ever have a question about obscure data lifecycle management techniques, cybersecurity, Destiny, data center power optimization, etc., and the chatbot replies with an excerpt of Jane Eyre or an nutritional breakdown of a tablespoon of almond oil, it took it from a backup of my old reddit account.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 13d
Evidently Reddit restores them now
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 13d
Yeah, they replaced a bunch of mine at first. Its why I went through multiple iterations of text replacement over a couple of years. If they want to replace the text with the original, they'd have to a) notice that the text of the response.doesn't match the comment it's responding to, b) have to go back some random number between 5 to 8 iterations.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 13d
Yeah, it's some bullshit. 🙆🏼‍♂️
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13d
I deleted all of my content there several years ago, and even going through and searching the old archives, most of it has been deleted and overwritten.
Makes me sad because it was like a hundred k karma account, but worth it to prevent them from just turning all of my effort into a few extra pennies in their pockets.
BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 10 pts · 13d
Daddy Elon did it so Spez copied his idol just like with the API.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 13d
Data harvesting
aldhissla@piefed.world · 7 pts · 12d
It's to accelerate the exodus to the Fediverse, obviously. There can be no better anti-Reddit advocate than u/spez. Guy's got talent. He's a natural.
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 13d
you can use an alternate frontend
https://redlib.catsarch.com/
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 3 pts · 13d
On an iphone you can also just use the “remove distractions” tool to disappear the overlay that freezes the screen and tells you that you have to log in. After doing it the first time my phone automatically does it now and I can browse without issues. I only use it to search for specific questions/info at this point and its a good workaround to avoid that bullshit
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 13d
android doesnt have this feature though? unless theres a workaround.
RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 13d
If you're using Firefox for Android and have Ublock installed you open the Ublock menu and either select the element zapper (temporary) or element picker (permanent) to remove website objects
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 13d
Piggy boy is in charge what do you expect
456456@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 13d
It is why I ended up here. So far, no complaints.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
They didn't as far as I can tell. What are you referring to?
worhui@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 13d
I was having trouble figuring this out as well. I unblocked Reddit from my firewall and had no trouble accessing it.
The business model is user data capture. Making people use an app just makes it more apparent.
Is anything important on Reddit anymore?
northertech@fedia.io · 3 pts · 13d
Just years of answer to questions that you could not Google because Google only shows sponsored results. We were so used to forums being forever that when we moved to Reddit and Discord, we did not consider the price of centralized information.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13d
Very much this.
But also, just having a huge number of people on one platform makes for a lot more content on obscure topics. You can have a niche interest and find a whole-ass subreddit full of people with the same interest. There are definitely subreddits I miss. But not enough to wade through the cesspool that is Reddit to pick out the few remaining gems.
Yes, we can make similar communities on Lemmy, but without the sheer volume of eyeballs that Reddit has, there's next to no chance that such communities would take off. (I'd love to see an equivalent of /r/bestoflegal, but the only way that's feasible is for it to copy content from Reddit, which isn't really the solution I'm hoping for. /r/fuckhoa is endlessly entertaining, but again, way too niche to take off on Reddit. I think you all get what I'm saying here.)
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 13d
100%, yep. It's all fully ass.
worhui@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12d
I have found Reddit misses much more than hits when I was on there pre-Lemmy.
On topics where I have deep knowledge, I was drown out by people with a wrong answer and more karma. Once on something I was literally the creator of.
I can only assume other topics I know less about were the same way. It really makes me doubt what I see on Reddit. I assume ai and bots did not improve that.
For niche information I am actually going back to targeted web boards. While Lemmy is less entertaining, I have gotten some good quality information as well as conversation.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 13d
especially with a cellphone, they capture even more data otherwise they couldnt on a desktop, where you can block ads/login more easily
limer@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 13d
It’s happening in some countries as a slow rollout
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 13d
it started happening to my phone yesterday.(no plans of logging in.
cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 13d
Initially if you browsed via a browser on mobile, it would force you to get the app or login. Now they've also (rolling disable) of old.reddit without logins (browser and mobile).
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
Yeah, that's shitty and not unexpected. Hopefully projects like Redlib find/maintain some kind of workaround for the long term, but I'm not all that confident.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 13d
I mean, "fake" (undisclosed bot use) accounts're still possible, so making sure said accts've joined a few slice-of-life/normie subs and seed the accts with innocuous questions, it should evade detection for a while... IANAP, so 🤷🏼‍♂️
BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 3 pts · 13d
They did but it's a gradual roll out and only fucks over old.reddit for "safety" says the pop up.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 13d
yea it happened on the phone, when you use a browser, it will force a login popup. they havnt fully made it popup 100% of the time yet.
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 12d
It's being rolled out slowly. Old.reddit stopped working on my desktop yesterday but still works on my phone, despite being on the same internet connection.
UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 12d
Because fuck them, that's why.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 13d
Reddit needs to croak already. New-reddit was the begining of the end.
hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 11d
FYI: old.reddit.com + Tor Browser in the "Safest" security setting (which disables javascript among other things) still works.
In other words, the most private way to browse reddit, still works. Though depending on your Tor exit node you might run into issues so just click the "new circuit" button to get a new Tor exit.