Canada Bets Big on Hydro and Wind Power | The country touts plans for what could be North America’s largest-ever clean energy investment, while doubling down on oil.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/17082026/canada-hydro-wind-power-investments/
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/17082026/canada-hydro-wind-power-investments/
16 Comments
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 16d
We got both
silence7@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 16d
The oil needs to stay in the ground though — everywhere, not just in Canada
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 16d
Ideally as much oil would remain in the ground as possible going forward, I'd agree.
Until that ideal world shows up I'd rather it be us doing the extraction in a country with labour laws and environmental regulations
madnificent@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
That sounds like a very reasonable argument but I fear everyone has such an excuse. The other sides have their own arguments. The poor will find it more just that they can get the corresponding funds. The richer without labour laws do not value them and will likely not care about the consequences but will findbthemselves worthy of the corresponding funds.
Net result: everyone keeps pumping oil, the price is low, renewables are less attractive.
The solution is to "just stop oil" regardless of the merits it has so it becomes increasingly attractive to find alternatives even in tougher sectors.
ThuggyG@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 15d
Solar and Wind is cheaper than Oil and Gas these days
madnificent@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 15d
Yes. Thank you for repeating that. It's an imoortant message.
For many sectors that is sufficient, for some more research is needed. For example: it was (and is) a challenge for transport and that has already improved. Any switch has a risk factor. As the price of fossil fuels goes up and the risk of future availability/price increases, businesses will seek greener electricity based solutions over fossil fuel based solutions. So let's send the message that fossil fuels are on the way out.
There may be a lot of money to lobby for fossil fuels, but there's a lot of merits in choosing green energy so let's keep doing that.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 15d
LOL. Good one. Those toxic "ponds" at Fort Mac are lakes of VOCs. We ruin water and burn gas on every barrel of oil extracted,
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 15d
Fort Mac is surrounded for 500km in every direction by trees, and the fact that tailings ponds exist instead of the tailings simply being dumped directly into the Athabasca is as a direct result of the functioning of environmental regs. Ya dildo
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 15d
Unfortunately, countries need to export to game economic numbers.
The solution to to oil extraction is curb demand.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 16d
What's the climate prediction of there being enough water yearly to power that hydro in the places they build?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 15d
Most of the hydro is expansion of existing facilities. If anything , rising temps will increase these levels from the Northern snow pack.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 15d
For as long as the snowpack exists.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 15d
at that point, we have little else to worry about.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 15d
Touche, you got us. We better just do nothing. Wouldn't want to accidentally try
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 15d
You got me, criticism of any kind is defeatism, let's all die in ball of fire.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 15d
wish we'd stop calling hydro Green :( Vast CH4 emissions from the dam often put them with comparable or occasionally more emissions the coal, let alone the incredible environmental destruction weight with the construction.
Small amounts of renewables and energy penury are the only solutions which is also why we won't solve this.