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c/sneerclub · by dgerard@awful.systems · 9d

bluesky is horrified to discover Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

https://bsky.app/profile/clairewillett.bsky.social/post/3mtpvatugsc2z
https://bsky.app/profile/panic.gay/post/3mtoakgupgk2x

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16 points · 18 comments · view on lemmy.world

18 Comments

blakestacey@awful.systems · 14 pts · 9d (5 replies)

I have an ATProto login and am skimming the threads before I have to go and do other stuff for a few hours. I came across a link to this podcast, which looks interesting. The transcript of the first episode (I'm more of a reader than a listener) barely gets going before (content warning for sexual assault by intoxication) this:

E: ... right after I graduated from undergrad, I went on a date in San Francisco with a Harvey Mudd alum who revealed to me over the course of the date, which is at like a fancy prohibition style whiskey bar. That part was cool. You had to make a reservation. So I thought that was, I was like, that's a good sign. That's really that's cool of him. He revealed that he and his friend had written a musical based on Harry Potter and the methods of rationality. And I said, Oh, well, I don't want to brag, but I've written a pretty highly acclaimed The Dark Knight Rises fanfic, and he broke in and said, It's not a fanfic.

A: Were they saying their musical wasn't a fanfic, or that rationality wasn't a fanfic?

E: The musical was not a fanfic. And I didn't know what to say to that. [...] And then he also, this is the guy who he tried to get me drunk when I didn't want to. Uh, super rational. Very rational. Yeah, rational. I want to have sex with this girl and she doesn't want to have sex with me. The rational thing to do is to change one of those conditions, and I can't not want to have sex with her. Um, and told me that he did not ask his female friends for dating advice because if you're a hunter, you ask a hunter and not a deer. These were the same guys. He was the same guy.

zogwarg@awful.systems · 8 pts · 7d (1 reply)

you ask a hunter and not a deer.

The sad lens into their prevalent relationship with "correcting biases" being more about dominance in "trickery" rather than becoming better people. (and also entrenched misogyny.)

blakestacey@awful.systems · 7 pts · 7d

Yep. Cf. the pervasive idea that the true fundamental purpose of intelligence is casting Persuasion spells.

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 8d (2 replies)

He revealed that he and his friend had written a musical based on Harry Potter and the methods of rationality.

Dear God

istewart@awful.systems · 4 pts · 7d

I will have you know that fartwave is a legitimate musical genre. The normies might not be ready for a full-length, full-production stage musical, BUT

maol@awful.systems · 2 pts · 6d

One of the members of a "wizard rock" band later went on to be in an actually good band. But as far as I am aware, this has only happened once.

deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 14 pts · 9d (6 replies)

Wait until they discover the trash that Rowling wrote.

mawhrin@awful.systems · 15 pts · 9d (5 replies)

oh, that they're fully aware of. (and other weird jkr-related fandoms, like “snapewives” (don't look)).

BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems · 11 pts · 9d (3 replies)

"snapewives"

I'm sorry, whatwives now?

dgerard@awful.systems · 12 pts · 9d (1 reply)

fwiw, that HP cult doesn't have a body count (that I know of)

scruiser@awful.systems · 11 pts · 9d

Well that sent me on a dark rabbit hole...

(For those that didn't know, The author of Dumbledore's Army and the Year of Darkness is a scam artist and a cult leader. I knew that part already, but what I didn't knowwas how big the cult was at it's peak or that it was tied to a murder-suicide in 2011...)

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Dumbledore%27s_Army_and_the_Year_of_Darkness

And of course, sneerclubbers should know by now about the HPMOR to Lesswrong to Cult pipeline. (With MAPLE, Zizians and Leverage Research as most clearly cult examples. Dragon Army and Vassar's circle as cult-adjacent).

mawhrin@awful.systems · 7 pts · 9d

i'm sorry.

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 2 pts · 7d

I know of this horror and it was incredibly unhinged by leaps and bounds. It confused me such a milquetoast character...Had that kind of thing grow around them. ROFL

lurker@awful.systems · 10 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Telling people that the AI superintelligence guy also posted a Harry Potter self-insert fanfic to push his beliefs and recruit people to his ideology is a huge bombshell to drop on someone

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 9 pts · 8d

There are so many connections between all these people and big events/culture war stuff that I jokingly start calling myself a conspiracy theorist when I start explaining these things.

(See how you can go from Jason Arday to LW in 3 steps. Arday to the racist Cofnas, who is in a picture with Moldbug who was popularized using lesswrong).

CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 9d (2 replies)

Don't have bsky, can I get a summary?

mawhrin@awful.systems · 11 pts · 9d

our agents there responded to the threads already, sharing the pain of knowledge.

anise@awful.systems · 3 pts · 8d

It's acessible via skylib:

https://skylib.coffee/profile/clairewillett.bsky.social/post/3mtpvatugsc2z

https://skylib.coffee/profile/panic.gay/post/3mtoakgupgk2x

Archer@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 9d
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