Big horns like these are super cool but...
How does she SLEEP?! Laying on your side is definitely out, probably laying on your stomach as well because you still have to turn your head at least a little so you can breathe. Laying on your back would require a special pillow, or a special mattress, maybe both. This poor woman probably hasn't slept properly in years and I am worried for her wellbeing!
If you are speaking about the people publishing this on Danbooru, then fair.
If you are speaking about MentalEdge, then you underestimate the time this would accumulate if done for every of their daily posts. As an example I spend over 5 hours a month (approximate guess, as I do it in big batch sessions and the last one was last month, so I can't remember well) searching for images and processing them into posts. And most of the processing (lookup of title, tags, artist socials, composing the body text) is already done by automated software.
Right. The links, title, and ensuring the image data is intact to preserve reverse-searchability (which your file destroyed, while failing to maintain the metadata when actually hosted) is wildly insufficient.
Does this metadata show up in lemmy in some way I'm not aware of?
Edit: I downloaded your webp, and I still can't see what you're referring to. Did you use a filehost that doesn't strip metadata to prevent stuff like accidentally doxxing yourself through the geotag?
You're still cropping it. Don't. You're damaging the one way people actually use to find out where an image originated. It's also the one way that survives no matter what happens to the file format or metadata.
Metadata will be lost whenever the file is hosted, proxied, thumbnailed, screenshoted or whatever. And because the internet in general aggressively strips this stuff, no-one really cares online unless the site is specifically about image organizing.
Instead it's an organization tool mostly used for local image archives. The people who would think to look at metadata are a fraction of a fraction, and the same ones who would think to add it when it isn't there for future reference.
Even though I use it myself for my local files, I'm not bothering to implement that for a bot whose main goal is to maintain LEMMY activity, and whose secondary goal is to drive clicks to the artists actual socials TODAY. Adding such metadata to my online posts has never, ever crossed my mind as potentially useful.
Especially on the fediverse, many instances don't even serve the original url, but will insert a stripped and re-hosted proxy copy, for security reasons. Or a thumbnailed smaller file, for speed.
This metadata doesn't live long once a file is online.
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Wireless_Dirk@ani.social · 3 pts · 8h
someone make a horny joke yet?
bunnyBoy@pawb.social · 2 pts · 8h
Big horns like these are super cool but... How does she SLEEP?! Laying on your side is definitely out, probably laying on your stomach as well because you still have to turn your head at least a little so you can breathe. Laying on your back would require a special pillow, or a special mattress, maybe both. This poor woman probably hasn't slept properly in years and I am worried for her wellbeing!
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 5h
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 0 pts · 1d
I still have no idea why folks republish works from artists without proper metadata.
Took me like 7minutes to tag a webp conversion.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
This is what your crop did:
My file:
Your file:
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 1d
This just proves my point🙃
properly metadata files, pls
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Your upload didn't retain any metadata. Its source is impossible to identify.
Mine has intact image data, and is thereby traceable.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Also why did you crop it?
Framing is not artistically arbitrary, and it damages the reverse-searchability.
green_copper@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 1d
If you are speaking about the people publishing this on Danbooru, then fair.
If you are speaking about MentalEdge, then you underestimate the time this would accumulate if done for every of their daily posts. As an example I spend over 5 hours a month (approximate guess, as I do it in big batch sessions and the last one was last month, so I can't remember well) searching for images and processing them into posts. And most of the processing (lookup of title, tags, artist socials, composing the body text) is already done by automated software.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 1d
MentalEdge can automate everything posted from danbooru (the source) to XMP, and more.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
But why? Why would I do that?
Especially as literally no one ever looks at that on lemmy, and a fraction of the fraction of people who save the images do it.
Not to mention the poor survivability of such metadata when hosted, federated, proxied, thumbnailed, or worse, screenshotted.
If you want neatly organized files, I suggest writing a danbooru ripping script yourself.
Why would I bother to do that for you? As you're essentially the sole case that would benefit.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 0 pts · 1d
I will soon enough.
Same reason @age_jaco isn't in your basement: Accreditation.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Right. The links, title, and ensuring the image data is intact to preserve reverse-searchability (which your file destroyed, while failing to maintain the metadata when actually hosted) is wildly insufficient.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1d
What do you even mean?
Does this metadata show up in lemmy in some way I'm not aware of?
Edit: I downloaded your webp, and I still can't see what you're referring to. Did you use a filehost that doesn't strip metadata to prevent stuff like accidentally doxxing yourself through the geotag?
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 1d
https://metadataview.com/view/images
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
Yeah.
Here is YOUR image.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 0 pts · 1d
Keep scrolling to the XMP
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
You mean not re-downloading the file to check what is actually getting served.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 1d
ah, lemmy is stripping metadata.
Apologies.
Here’s the crop+meta catbox.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1d
You're still cropping it. Don't. You're damaging the one way people actually use to find out where an image originated. It's also the one way that survives no matter what happens to the file format or metadata.
Metadata will be lost whenever the file is hosted, proxied, thumbnailed, screenshoted or whatever. And because the internet in general aggressively strips this stuff, no-one really cares online unless the site is specifically about image organizing.
Instead it's an organization tool mostly used for local image archives. The people who would think to look at metadata are a fraction of a fraction, and the same ones who would think to add it when it isn't there for future reference.
Even though I use it myself for my local files, I'm not bothering to implement that for a bot whose main goal is to maintain LEMMY activity, and whose secondary goal is to drive clicks to the artists actual socials TODAY. Adding such metadata to my online posts has never, ever crossed my mind as potentially useful.
Especially on the fediverse, many instances don't even serve the original url, but will insert a stripped and re-hosted proxy copy, for security reasons. Or a thumbnailed smaller file, for speed.
This metadata doesn't live long once a file is online.
MentalEdge@ani.social · 1 pts · 1d
Here is this file, as seen by my ani.social account:
https://ani.social/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fzkkfy4.webp&format=webp&thumbnail=1024I'll save you the trouble, I checked. The metadata, even in this catbox hosted copy of the file, is gone.