Why Hierarchy Actually Rewards The Worst Among Us

A clip from this livestream: youtube.com/live/Q6c3pXG62K4

It's often said that hierarchy is necessary because humans are selfish and greedy. But is that really the case? Hierarchy creates a system where the worst actors are given the easiest path to power.

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Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 22d (2 replies)

AMONG US?!!!!??!?

LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 22d (1 reply)

A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 22d

Lizard looks kinda sussy here

phil@lemmy.openitco.de · 2 pts · 22d (1 reply)
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 22d

i think selectoral theory would be more fitting here

DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d (1 reply)

Proving it is irrelevant, the point is to change it.

lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d

Have to name it to tame it

Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 22d

Cunts are still running the world.

DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 22d (4 replies)

No such thing as the absence of hierarchy. Removing explicit hierarchies simply creates implicit ones, which actually tend to elevate worse people than explicit hierarchies.

The Tyranny of Stuctureless https://share.google/SVXexcnipMwEed6pr

Research Reveals Pervasive Implicit Hierarchies for Race, Religion, and Age – Association for Psychological Science – APS https://share.google/mLKLVtIqyxcRXuEj5

punkisundead@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 22d (3 replies)

The Tyranny of Stuctureless https://share.google/SVXexcnipMwEed6pr

I think thats a grave misreading of this text when you have it as a source for "Removing explicit hierarchies simply creates implicit ones".

Its a call out for groups that do not give themselves clear structures, roles, processes for decision making etc which can result in implicit hierarchies, especiallg long term. Bringing "structure" into those groups or building up groups from the ground up with horizontal structures are ways take on these issues.

DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 22d (2 replies)

No, those are ways to make sure your "horizontal structures" are dominated by the most charismatic Neurotypicals in the room at all times, to the detriment of anyone else.

punkisundead@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 21d (1 reply)

Could you maybe explain how you come to this opinion? Because its hard to follow for me

DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 20d

Observation of the social dynamics described in the links above as they apply to any social group anywhere.

Humans are Apes. Every troop of Apes has a leader, and further stratification below that. Humans are no different. If there isn't a structure (deference to elders, to the smartest, etc) pushing for a different outcome, the dominant ape in a human troop is generally the most charismatic individual, with the strata below that generally determined by similarity or proximity to the leader. In any group larger than a handful, the most charismatic will almost certainly be Neurotypical.