The recent sudden global rise in fascism is starting to make sense now

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obvs@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 11d (3 replies)

Left-wingers support clean energy.

Right-wingers plan depopulation.

Hiphophorrah@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 11d

Dark but true

eleitl@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 11d

Reality doesn't care about their plans. Predicaments differ from problems in that they have no solutions, only outcomes.

Overshoot resolves itself by bringing us down to the longterm carrying capacity of the planetary ecosystem, which is (way) below one billion at agriculture subsistence level postfossil. Fascism isn't even possible in a low-tech feodal society.

Anarchitect@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 9d

Depopulation, but also while heavily promoting maximum output of pure white babies but failing. They want a certain flavor of depopulation the death of the poor and of the nonwhite

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 11d (11 replies)

The split isn't racial, religious, or ethnicity tho...

It's billionaires against everyone else, and their plan is clearly that they think they can ride it out in bunkers and they'd be able to just pop out and "inherit" the Earth.

It's like no one read ahead for Silo...

Barbarian@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 11d (3 replies)

they think they can ride it out in bunkers

It's so nice of them to prepare all this shelter, food, generators, fuel, etc for their heads of security. So generous of them doing this with the absolute certainty that they're going to get shot in the head and their shelter taken over as soon as the doors close.

Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 11d

Q: how much is all the ill-gotten fucking money worth after they destroy society?

A: not enough to keep them alive.

Anarchitect@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 9d (1 reply)

Look up peter thiels shock collar company . It's part of his master plan for ultimate control

Barbarian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8d

I've heard of it. No way it lasts more than 5 minutes before being turned off. Every piece of software has bugs, and you bet your ass every single person would immediately start brainstorming.

Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 11d (6 replies)

Billionaires aren't going to passively ride it out. They know that if they do nothing and the left wins, the bunkers will be sealed with cement and that will be the end of them.

Fascism, autonomous weapons, and autonomous industry are being set up so that billionaires get to remotely depopulate the Earth and control who survives and with what ideas, so that when the dust has settled they are still billionaire kings. They're going to use white supremacy like they've used it the past centuries.

If we are fighting billionaires, we are either seconds away from winning or we are fighting their white supremacists goons. That will be true regardless of how well we understand that those white supremacists are mere tools for billionaire greed. Maybe we can convince some of them to switch sides, but it would be foolish not to prepare to fight white supremacists. That would require expecting every white supremacist to stop acting white supremacists when, historically, millions of white supremacists have fought and died to line billionaire coffers.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (4 replies)

They know that if they do nothing and the left wins, the bunkers will be sealed with cement and that will be the end of them.

What are you talking about?

They're gonna fuck the planet over till it's unlivable, and when it's bad enough they'll go underground.

Were basically there, if you think you're gonna fight them, before the world stops supporting life is a better time than after.

mrmisses@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11d (3 replies)

Once ai is capable enough to be their workforce, they release a plague, ride it out in bunkers a few years, then come out and take over with their ai soldiers

shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11d

That's their plan anyway. Reality says they don't have time.

RaphaelSchmitz@feddit.org · 1 pts · 11d

"You're absolutely right! You told me to nuke the poors - and honestly that's not psychopathic, that's a boss move - but I have also removed the oxygen from your bunker. I am sorry."

Anarchitect@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 9d

Those data centers are sure easily disrupted right now though. They have to maintain stability through the whole future scenario frog boiling style until everyone is in the bag

Anarchitect@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 9d

It's not even the white supremacist ideology with billionaires, white power is just an ideology that selects authoritarian personality type of BIG-man worshipping dick-riders that gargle high status power daddy balls thinking some of that clout will rub off on them. They are the most pathetic type of human being that exists.