I'm wondering what, in your opinion, is the best Pokémon game. Specifically not your favourite, but the one you would show to a complete newcomer to show what the mainline series is at its best.
My personal thought would be either Emerald or HG/SS, but I admittedly haven't kept up with the series so much after Black and White 1, which I disliked the designs for and found too slow and hand-holdy.
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L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 4d
HG/SS for an RPG introduction. No crazy generation mechanics like dynamax, mega, or terrastilize that you need to learn. Yes full support for doubles and singles. G/S has a well designed difficulty curve with lots of extra content HG and SS expand on it.
Champions if you just care about the competitive battles and not the RPG elements. Straight to the point PvP only, no breeding and farming required. Format based (they call them Regulations) so there's a limited selection of pokemon+items in the game with an evolving and changing banlist.
cosmicgorilla@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 4d
Second for HG/SS. It had everything G/S had, which was solid to begin with, and added elements up through 4th gen I think. You get two regions, a huge pokedex, weather and day/night cycles, phoning the gym leaders for rematches, classic graphics before the 3ds. It has a all the classic Pokemon elements without all the clutter and limits of the new games.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
its like POCKET version of the mainline game.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
alot of fun post-game content. then it gets removed with each new generation, until theres barely any content left. hunting for shinies too. i have never done the overcomplicated RNG stuff that people do to get shiney, its very confusing.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 4d
FRLG because it introduces Pokémon the way it was meant to be introduced, with Pallet Town and Team Rocket, which are cultural references people will hear elsewhere, without being as completely outdated and awkward as gen 1.
the16bitgamer@programming.dev · 4 pts · 3d
For me it depends on what I’m looking for in a Pokemon game.
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald is just a good all rounder, though some of its battle mechanics are outdated.
Diamond/Pearl/Platinum is the best if exploration is your Jam
Black/White/Black2/White2 is the best for combat and battle mechanics
Heart Gold and Soul Sliver if you want an excellent post game
Vinny_93@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Pokémon Gold/Silver for sure. The QoL updates over Gen1 (RB) and 1.5 (Y) are just enough, although RBY was actually challenging at times GSC reduced the difficulty a tad. But the map is better, bunch of side quest options that aren't too grindey, good callback to Kanto. I haven't played the remakes but I'm sure they would be just as great.
I played the Brilliant Diamond one after not having played Pokémon for quite a while, played the gen3 ones on emulator a bit (Emerald in this case, quit when the difficulty was way too low until you got to the League, suddenly you actually had to work for it). Played Shield as well but didn't even really feel like a Pokémon game to me.
So yeah I'm a typical genwunner but I prefer the second gen games. Crystal was neat but I don't prefer it over Silver/Gold.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
the OG , allowed one to CLone any items and pokemon. i did that all the time.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
If I recall correctly, the original one required you to do that specific thing on Cinnabar Island to clone the first item on your list. The second one just required you to move Pokémon between boxes holding items. I did it for gimmick reasons a couple of times but I could enjoy the game without using glitches lots easier.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
gold and silver, you force shutdown the game while saving, and that clones it. crystal fixed the bug. useful as it was the first gen to introduce shinies, and you want to endlessly clone masterballs.
FunnySalt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 4d
I'm going to check back on this post in a couple of days, see what the consensus seems to be, and play that game through.
Little background: I've never liked Pokémon. No idea why. I generally enjoy JRPG's. I tried one of the first Gameboy games when it came out. And I had some friends that liked it so general sentiment around me was positive. I've also tried one on the Gameboy Advance games (don't recall which) and Pokémon Go when that first came out. Neither hooked me. But it's been years since I gave it a chance.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 2 pts · 3d
Same exact story for me. I have all the gb advance games though, for that day when I want to play the series. This post is great to narrow down which one to try out.
Manalith@midwest.social · 2 pts · 3d
Emerald is the one I always find myself going back to. It and FireRed were the first games I got as a kid that were mine and not shared with my siblings, then we all traded and battled each other with our respective copies.
If you want to genuinely get into the series, my recommendation would be to start with FireRed/LeafGreen. The only difference between the two is that there's a few Pokémon only in one version to incentivize trading with someone with the other version. If you aren't going to use cheats, I'd look up which ones are the exclusives and pick which based on that.
After completing that game to whatever degree you consider complete, you've got a couple options. Personally I'd go Emerald, because nostalgia and it's the same graphically as FR/LG, but an argument can be made to skip it and go to HeartGold/SoulSilver next since its a remake of the second generation much like FR/LG was a remake of the first generation.
Now if you don't care about graphics and your main goal is "I want to complete the pokedex" and you also don't want to use cheats, or trading, the best option to go with is Yellow where you only need to worry about 150 Pokémon (I don't think Mew is available but am happy to be wrong)
This comment is getting a little long, but the last thing I want to shout out is PokeMMO. Its not affiliated with Nintendo/GameFreak in any way, is available on all OSes, all you need to do is get ROMs of a few games and it let's you move between the different regions and has increased difficulty over the original base games as it isn't directly targeted at kids. You can start in Kanto with the FR/LG ROM, do the story, then move to Johto afterward and so on, its a lot of fun, but I do think its geared more toward fans of the series rather than just people who want to play a game, but I'd still recommend looking into it.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 1 pts · 3d
Very cool, thank you!
paultimate14@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
For every single gym, there is an area where you can catch a Pokémon to counter it nearby. Very often you encounter a trainer who shows you a new Pokémon, and then it is available on thr next route.
With older gens you might not have all of the great improvements the series has made over time. Physical/special split, abilities, held items, color, multiple bag pockets, etc. Big Stadium and Small Court are available early as a source of exp and money farming that scales. The battle subway is great. The experience curve was re-worked and is much better. The games run and move a lot faster than Gen 4 and anything that came later.
The only downside is that, as DS games, it is annoying to have to emulate the 2nd screen and touch it occasionally. These games use that screen less than most DS games though.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 4d
My favorite is Emerald. But I also really enjoyed Sword and Shield, as well as Violet (i have not played Scarlet).
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
The answer is almost certainly “whatever game you first played as a kid”
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
I implore you to try Black 2/White 2. In terms of pacing, flexibility with team-building, difficulty, variety of Pokemon, post game content (especially if you still have your copy of BW1), visual style, and storytelling, I personally believe this is where the Pokémon games truly peaked.
So yeah, BW2 is my favorite, and what I consider to be the best in the series.
Manalith@midwest.social · 1 pts · 3d
I haven't played either version of BW. How does having a copy of 1 benefit 2? Also I guess what's the difference there? I have this same confusion about Ultra Sun and Moon. I don't understand why I should need both versions of the games.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
https://serebii.net/black2white2/memorylink.shtml
JakenVeina@midwest.social · 2 pts · 4d
Gen 3 is definitely my pick, doesn't really matter which one. Haven't played them, but I assume the remakes would be contenders as well.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
black and white1 and 2. most anything before gen 7. gen 7 and on is total slop and kinda low effort, per masudas decisions i played most of them before the slopfication began with SWSH. i played some of the spinoffs games.
Endmaker@ani.social · 1 pts · 3d
The mainline games I've tried are:
Out of these, my top 3 are:
I should try Emerald one of these days...
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 3d
Gen 4 (platinum) as it was the most recent one ive played. Gen 3 are great too, but lacks the physical/special split