A History of LGBT Officers & the Central Intelligence Agency

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/a-history-of-lgbt-officers---the-central-intelligence-agency

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germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 11d

More 👏 queer 👏 enforcers 👏 of 👏 the 👏 US👏 hegemony

Archer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (24 replies)

Why shouldn’t we just dismantle the CIA? Seems like all they do is support fascists and kill brown people.

I’m also amazed that so many LGBT people joined up, it was obvious what would inevitably happen

Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11d (23 replies)

Wrong agency.

I don't understand this defeatous mentality. If LGBTQ+ employees just quit, who will stand up for their rights? Telling LGBTQ+ people to quit is anti-LGBTQ+ itself!

Archer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 11d (2 replies)

Bigger picture, why work for the United States government if it’s going to continue to erode and eliminate your rights? Anyone with half a brain could see where the US was and is headed. I never said they should quit, I’m saying they never should have applied

Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 11d (1 reply)

What you're saying is that the ship is sinking but we should stand back and let other people try to save it. The only way for change is to be involved directly.

Archer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d

Nope. I’m saying don’t apply for a job working for the captain of the ship when he is publicly killing people he doesn’t like and doesn’t care if the ship sinks or not

alapakala@quokk.au · 2 pts · 11d (19 replies)

CIA will never support LGBTQIAPoC+ rights.
You're correct, wrong agency, wrong branch.
Now tell a Demagogue to support queer siblings of color.
What's AIPAC?

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 11d (18 replies)

The article describes the CIA supporting them.

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 11d (17 replies)
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Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d (7 replies)
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squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 9d

Your submission in "A History of LGBT Officers & the Central Intelligence Agency" was removed for Removed to stop this argument. Please do not engage anymore. .

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 10d (5 replies)
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Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d

You still have yet to read the article that you are arguing against.

Go be homophobic somewhere else!

squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 9d

Your submission in "A History of LGBT Officers & the Central Intelligence Agency" was removed for Removed to discourage further arguments, please do not engage anymore.

squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 9d

Your submission in "A History of LGBT Officers & the Central Intelligence Agency" was removed for Please, do not accuse other people of being "spys" or other such things, this will needlessly escalate arguments. .

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 10d (7 replies)

Owning the means of their espionage. I don’t know how much more owning it could get?

I don’t think I’m politically illiterate.

What disinformation did I give?

Do I even want to know?

Only you can answer that.

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 10d (6 replies)

Are you aware what class is, and how conscious society is?

What disinformation did I give?

we will not reengage this.

Only you can answer that.

This was more of “are you willing to engage in your policies being criticized, or should I disengage my curiosity”? I don't enjoy questioning those unwilling to reflect.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 10d

Are you aware what class is, and how conscious society is?

No to both.

we will not reengage this

Linking to a thread is not enough. What disinformation did I give?

This was more of “are you willing to engage in your policies being criticized, or should I disengage my curiosity”?

I think I’ve been engaging in good faith with you. Keeping your curiosity engaged is something only you can answer. I’m pretty curious seeing your replies.

alapakala@quokk.au · 4 pts · 11d (10 replies)

This is gorgeous Florencia🥲, the very first sentence admits operation paperclip was necessary for the US. But it doesn't go farther into describing the anti queer campaigns they committed domestically, and abroad. I did find it amusing Julia Curlee was directly responsible for the OPM leaks.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 10d (9 replies)

It is gorgeous. I’m very disappointed on how shitty the Trump admin has behaved.

The article does cover the lavender scare. What other campaigns do you mean?

And I can’t find Curlee anywhere in that Wikipedia article. How is she responsible?

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 10d (8 replies)

Honesty, you can cover operation «Employment of Homosexuals and Other Sex Perverts in Government» under the lavender scare, so my apologies there.

And I can’t find Curlee anywhere in that Wikipedia article. How is she responsible?

Timeline. She was employed for direct security before, during, and after the OPM breach. One can conclude she was responsible for the negligence that lead to the breach. Shortly after, we (assume) are both well aware how Putin took care of the vulnerable assets.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 10d (7 replies)

She was not employed for direct security. I don’t know how you’re blaming the OPM leak.

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 10d (6 replies)

In 2011, OPM for the first time outlined a process for gender transition in federal workplaces. In June 2013, one of the authors (Curlee) became the first transgender officer to successfully and openly transition at the CIA, with the support of CIA leadership.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 10d (5 replies)

So you’re blaming the OPM leak on her coming out?

alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 10d (4 replies)

Absolutely not!
I am saying that while employed, after authoring the guidelines in OPM, the leak occured. If she was assigned a security position before and during the leak, she did a poor job of securing asset deaths. If she wasn't assigned a security role whatsoever, then my point is weightless. It is amusing still.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 10d

What's the amusing part?