Always been an effective rich people's strategy to get labor to to fight amongst themselves. Labor as a whole actually knows how to do things, and actually does the things. Rich people merely "own" stuff, and have class traitor goons willing to use violence to enforce that.
Historically (and still today) ice/border patrol has been in cahoots with the farmers and businessmen to suppress/steal wages from immigrants.
Pulling lots of people from the local economy is going to depress said economy.
So yes, ruthlessly yanking people will screw everyone. Especially the working class.
I wonder what this means. Why do the arrests affect it like that, since as an instant reaction you'd think less competition = better chance to force more pay. What did happen with employment in those sectors?
I was wondering the same thing. Price is supposed to be set at the equilibrium between supply and demand. Fewer immigrant workers should mean less supply of workers overall. If demand for workers stays the same, the price, or wage in this case, should go up. That must mean then that demand has gone down as well. Maybe businesses in construction and hospitality are hiring fewer people overall, for related or unrelated reasons.
There is another possibility: maybe the assumption that fewer immigrant workers would mean fewer workers overall was wrong. Maybe domestic workers are applying for jobs that would have otherwise been taken by immigrant workers, without asking for higher pay. There are plenty of American citizens who need a job, even if it is a relatively low paying one. Or, maybe increased immigration enforcement doesn't necessarily mean a significant reduction in the availability of immigrant laborers. Maybe it's a combination of factors.
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quill7513@anarchist.nexus · 22 pts · 1d
well yeah. the slave catchers aren't there to expand the economy for the people at the bottom of the ladder
observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1d
I agree with the sentiment but that's really a disingenuous interpretation of these data...
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
R^2^ of like nothing
iocase@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 15h
My teacher would yell at me for trying to fit a plot like that
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 15h
TX out there doing real work
reptar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 13h
Thank you!
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 1d
When a Billionaire dies, who gets his Senator?
derAbsender@piefed.social · 4 pts · 1d
Its brood obviously.
West_of_West@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
While there was a hope for tanistry, we couldn't get enough counties on board, we are now slipping into absolute-primogeniture.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
I get so tired of hearing about DEAD people that are NOW making more money in a month than I can in my entire lifetime.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 17h
Notice I didn't have to say "their" or "her".
Old white man Senators are ruining this PLANET.
DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 1d
Shame the people stupid enough to blame low wages on immigrants will never be swayed by something as woke as facts and numbers.
bad1080@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d
you can prove anything with facts... https://youtu.be/FRfnag9nAso
jtrek@startrek.website · 8 pts · 1d
Always been an effective rich people's strategy to get labor to to fight amongst themselves. Labor as a whole actually knows how to do things, and actually does the things. Rich people merely "own" stuff, and have class traitor goons willing to use violence to enforce that.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1d
Yeah all we need is to just inform them with charts and graphs! That'll convince them!
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 17h
Historically (and still today) ice/border patrol has been in cahoots with the farmers and businessmen to suppress/steal wages from immigrants.
Pulling lots of people from the local economy is going to depress said economy. So yes, ruthlessly yanking people will screw everyone. Especially the working class.
Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
The oligarchs are almost all immigrants and the kids of immigrants.
*Not saying that poor immigrants are the problem, just pointing out the irony
20cello@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
So true,the problem is that the vast majority of humans can't understand this simple concept , imagine reading a graph...
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 11h
We always knew it was about racism and cruelty.
bad1080@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
no war but the class war!
grey_maniac@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
I feel like corporate employers would consider slowed wage growth a positive thing.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17h
No shit.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 1d
I wonder what this means. Why do the arrests affect it like that, since as an instant reaction you'd think less competition = better chance to force more pay. What did happen with employment in those sectors?
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I was wondering the same thing. Price is supposed to be set at the equilibrium between supply and demand. Fewer immigrant workers should mean less supply of workers overall. If demand for workers stays the same, the price, or wage in this case, should go up. That must mean then that demand has gone down as well. Maybe businesses in construction and hospitality are hiring fewer people overall, for related or unrelated reasons.
There is another possibility: maybe the assumption that fewer immigrant workers would mean fewer workers overall was wrong. Maybe domestic workers are applying for jobs that would have otherwise been taken by immigrant workers, without asking for higher pay. There are plenty of American citizens who need a job, even if it is a relatively low paying one. Or, maybe increased immigration enforcement doesn't necessarily mean a significant reduction in the availability of immigrant laborers. Maybe it's a combination of factors.