What's something low profile comrades say that communicate immediately that they know which side they fight for in the class struggle?
Example: if anyone in the wild speaks "material conditions", or "bourgeois state", out loud, I'm listening.
What's something low profile comrades say that communicate immediately that they know which side they fight for in the class struggle?
Example: if anyone in the wild speaks "material conditions", or "bourgeois state", out loud, I'm listening.
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Munrock@lemmygrad.ml · 42 pts · 2y
Usually it's the breath. We all have the same breath because we all use the same toothbrush.
kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml · 10 pts · 2y
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UniversalMonk@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1y
Old, but amazing comment!
Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml · 31 pts · 2y
Nice try, fed
dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org · 31 pts · 2y
Lmao, this guy doesn't know the codeword.
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 25 pts · 2y
I was at a local bookstore/clothing consignment/vinyl shop with a friend because he collects vinyl. I was looking through the books and spotted "A People's History of the United States" by Zinn and ended up picking it up for another friend. I started talking to the owner as I was ringing up about the few leftist texts that he had and how it's kind of cool to see that sort of thing in the TX panhandle since there aren't really many leftists here and he simply replied "yeah, we're out there."
I now call that place the "Commie Record Store" lol.
Last time I was there he had a 4th print edition of State and Revolution from 1935, that is now in my possession. The book is super old and the spine is brittle and I don't know what to do with it, but I feel like it's somehow special now.
He now acts as my source for physical books. I mostly read digital but I would like a small collection of "the classics" so to speak.
And similar to comrade Queerecommie, I have a hat with several buttons that anyone here would recognize but the average lib won't. I also use the big nerdy Marx words like dialectics, material conditions, praxis, bourgeois, etc.
simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml · 13 pts · 2y
What buttons do you have on your hat? I'd like to do something similar.
I wear hammer and sickle earrings pretty often, but I've never really had comments.
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 9 pts · 2y
I have a black flag, an AnCom(like my banner), and Anarcha Feminism(purple and black) one. Then I have a trans rights one, a smash the patriarchy one, and one that says All Cats Are Beautiful(ACAB). I also have Black Fist and Pride Flag/Inclusive one. I stay away from Hammer and Sickle just because it's so known. The earnings sound cute though lol. A lot of these can be marked up as like just being progressive I guess.
I want a DSA rose eventually.
Overall, it's sort of all over the place but each sort of represents the stages I have gone through along my leftist journey.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 7 pts · 2y
Nice, if you want to be more explicit you could try AES flags, antifa symbol, baby Lenin, or master Soviet hemp grower. You could also get random Soviet pins.
Edit: also based band pins. I know my dad has a cool Rage Against the Machine pin.
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
I have a few antifa pins that didn't make it on the hat and I think the Antifascist Action one is a bit more known so maybe too obvious? I think my friend ended up nabbing the scared cat pin one from me.
I should clarify I didn't mean the Black Flag band logo, but just the black flag anarchist one. I do have a Misfits pin that an old friend gave me and I was gonna look to get an Anti-flag pin but the SA allegations happened so idk now lol.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Antifa is assumed to be anarchist, so people wonāt assume youāre a commie. I didnāt assume you meant the band black flag. The misfits are reactionary, but their music is good, so whatever. Anti-flag is generally recognized as cringe, so probably not. We should each independently look into pins for various leftist bands from SOAD to Immortal Technique. Pins also, arenāt too hard to make.
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
First, it looks like I'm gonna be listening to SoaD today lol. Second, I've actually been wanting to get a few custom pins made and have a friend that does graphic design. I have an idea for one with like a big rainbow and clouds but the clouds are big bubbly text that says "Stay woke, comrade." The idea is sort of a on-the-nose way of making fun of the chuds that decry "woke culture" and such.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
I just happened to be listening to IEAIAIO rn, which is quite a coincidence as Iām shuffling my whole library. I thought of more ideas. You could get a Palestinian flag, a panafrican flag, or a black panthers symbol.
simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Those sound rad!!
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Lol the only buttons I have are a Starry Plough pin and a QR code that directs to Marxās manifesto, so literally like nobody notices them
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
You got a link to the QR code one? I kind of love that idea.
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
I can take a picture of it later when Iām off work, itās pretty inconspicuous, but comes in handy when youāre bored and in need of reading material
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
https://www.redbubble.com/i/pin/communist-manifesto-qr-code-by-psychicsappho/77266524.NP9QY This is the Redbubble link, idk where I got it from tho
roux@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Sweet thanks. I might have to order this in the near future lol.
lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml · 22 pts · 2y
redtea@lemmygrad.ml · 17 pts · 2y
They usually say 'Would you like to join my vanguard party, Stalin's Angels?'
Seriously, though, I don't think there's a way to tell. The number of 'decolonisers' that cross picket lines⦠or the number of 'Marxists' who turn out to be post-third gen Frankfurt School⦠disappointing.
American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml · 17 pts · 2y
recognized one for talking about anti colonial violence vs colonial violence
Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml · 16 pts · 2y
Honestly itās difficult to tell. My friend is a huge China Stan and straight up told me that heās a communist but Iām still not 100% positive.
vermingot@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz · 3 pts · 2y
Why ?
Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Because I feel like heās just a Chinese nationalist. He hasnāt referenced any theory or performed any class analysis. He just recites taking points like ālandlord badā.
vermingot@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
I have a friend who's kinda like that, he says he's communist but also says that freelancers are bourgeois because "they don't need to exploit the proletariat to be the dominant class" ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
A larperās better than an anticommunist. Just talk about and share theory and he might become a real comrade.
Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
I agree, but the entire situation is hilarious because he thinks Iām a liberal bourge.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Why donāt you just come out and say youāre a commie?
Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
This guy flipped PS5ās while holding a six figure salary at a trust fund, managing marketing.
Like no ethical consumerism under capitalism and all but thatās a little excessive.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Wow. Would it be feasible in the foreseeable future to get him to use some of that on helping organizations and praxis?
ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml · 16 pts · 2y
I know only one person who is conscious about politics and he is a weird libertarian.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 15 pts · 2y
When they unironically say ābasedā or use āMarxistā or positively (multiple of my teachers have done this, Iām super lucky to live in a relatively non hell hole part of the US). Also when they say ācommunistā positively or talk about how they like Cuba (my peers have done these). A more subtle way is if they talk about dialectics or āpeopleās history.ā
Also, the way youād pick me out is my ātoadal commieā shirt, my ādeath to amerikkkaā shirt, my baret with a red star on it, or my Lenin pin on my backpack. Thatās by looks, assuming you havenāt heard how I always talk about communism whenever I get the chance.
Edit: almost forgot the pro-union/Sankara/antifa stickers and patches.
kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml · 12 pts · 2y
I would say people of all political persuasions say "based," and unfortunately neither "Marxist," "communist," nor "Cuba" seems to guarantee they aren't just a leftcom or similar adjacent variant.
If I say someone with a "death to amerikkka" shirt, I would push old grannies over to talk to them.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y
The one who said ābasedā also made clear his favorite streamer is Hasan. He also complimented my Mao computer background. The one who mentioned Marxism and peopleās history has a Sankara sticker among others. The one who positively mentioned communism im not 100% sure about. Last year someone complimented my baret and said they were reminded of Che (whoās great and I should learn about him if I didnāt already). We talked about music and the daily show and stuff. I wish i talked with him more before he graduated. I almost forgot, one of my teachers made an assignment specifically about Marxism and didnāt flinch when I praised Stalin.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
I forgot to mention, I first realized he was a Hasan fan after he said ābasedā when he said āitās joeverā and that thatās what his favorite streamer says.
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
When you say ābaretā what kind are we talking? The military kind or pancake? Because Iāve got a bunch of pancake ones but none with stars on them.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Thereās not much a difference, I just know I donāt have a little button or whatever at the top of mine. My star is either felt which I pin or a pin of baby Lenin (you can buy it from Etsy, thank you Lady Izdihar).
simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml · 15 pts · 2y
I'll let you know when I meet one.
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 14 pts · 2y
Itās the mouth feel
TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Yeah they've got a certain taste
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y
The socialist fraternal kiss, itās something we need to bring back:
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Weāve got a paradox here. You kiss someone fraternally because they are socialist, but itās also supposed to be the way you know whether someone is a socialist. I guess we could just kiss random people and if it feels right it becomes socialist and fraternal.
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Kissing will save the world š
ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml · 14 pts · 2y
When I met my former coworker for the first time, she said material conditions and that's when I knew.
kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml · 14 pts · 2y
My only experiences are with "leftists" who are social progressive, economically variable, geopolitically completely co-opted. Best I have gotten to date was an unlabeled leftist who said she felt NATO had it's part to play in the conflict. 99% the only people I've talked to with positive views (or willing to listen to positive views) of China, Russia, NK etc. are people in weird post-alt right/apolitical/center right spaces. If I ever met a real not-bigoted not-Andrew Tate-ified ML in real life at random and not some half-assed Maoist, Trot, leftcom, Russiaphobe etc. I would probably scream in joy. My expectations are not that high.
sailingbythelee@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 2y
Wait, you have positive views of North Korea?
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml · 13 pts · 2y
Special handshake and manner of ear grabbing.
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Thatās some old school spy shit!
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
I still remember when i went to the party house once and knocked the proper 134 times. Nobody answered so i looked at the window and here they were - 44 irons on the windowsill, sign that the place was busted.
SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
They got raided? Is communism not allowed in Poland? Thatās devastatingā¦
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
(It was an old spy joke paraphrase)
Communism is not officially forbidden in Poland, but the few remaining groups are effortless to silence using lawsuit harrasment and media censorship.
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 13 pts · 2y
Unless I see a Che shirt or something I have literally no clue. There isnāt a Commie haircut or facial hair type thatās seen as communist here in the USA at least. Canāt speak for the rest of the world, or even for the rest of the US now that I think of it. When it comes to the MidWestern comrades idk tbh, I wear Commie Soccer Jerseys (mostly bc they look cool, partly bc theyāre lefty) and a Deprogram hat sometimes but I doubt that everyone knows Iām a commie when I wear a Motƶrhead cutoff or my Jordan UCLA shirt. TL;DR You have no real way of knowing if someone is a Lib or an anarchist or anything just based on how they look, especially when capitalism sorta makes some people feel uncomfortable displaying their beliefs in public. I definitely think there are a decent amount of people who are too scared of the word āCOMMUNISMā to call themselves Commies, but hold beliefs similar to us in many ways. And those people DEFINITELY arenāt dressing in commie clothes
nephs@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y
Notice I didn't specifically ask about how they look. My example was about something they/we say.
What's something someone would do/say that would have you think "one of us", about them?
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Ohhhh, my bad I kinda skim fast, got ahead of myself. The only in-person convos with a lefty Iāve had started because we were talking about Geography. Actually caring about the struggles of the people around the world makes you more likely to learn about the rest of the world. Thereās a reason why righties all cling to stereotypes: they donāt care enough to challenge that notion in their mind.
HaSch@lemmygrad.ml · 13 pts · 2y
Communists might on first glance appear like wizards or sorcerers when they hold wands adorned with crimson cloth or when they don caps inscribed with the carmesin pentagram, and they certainly share their love of physical tomes to carry with them, however they differ from those classes in that they like to flock together, and it is not uncommon to encounter a whole party comprised entirely of communists
201dberg@lemmygrad.ml · 12 pts · 2y
Usually for me it's if they don't point at me and make a loud screeching sound when I mention unions are good and maybe socialist countries aren't as bad as the US media makes them out to be.
AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml · 12 pts · 2y
This classic.
ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml · 9 pts · 2y
Lol āif the commie says that they are a commie who frequently commies with fellow commies, he MAY be a commieā
TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
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nephs@lemmygrad.ml · 9 pts · 2y
I also just remembered of "contradiction".
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Yeah, one of my Marxist teachers was trying to explain something dialectically (though unfortunately in the Fichteian way).
nephs@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Speech 100! Hahaha
Well, yeah. I know some of that stuff indirectly. Haven't been here for long, but there's a few of the concepts that appear over and over again, and are useful in actual conversation, even if sometimes not perfectly precise.
I'll start using "the material conditions of this codebase won't allow for the unfolding of such feature". Or something.
It's really hard to dig deeper into all/most of the concepts.
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Iāve learned a lot about dialectics recently. I can give recommendations. I havenāt read any Hegel or Fichte, but i have read Mao.
nephs@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Yes, please? I know "on contradiction" is in the queue. But those things take time. :D
QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah, itās good. āOn practice,ā and āon the correct handling of the contradictions among the peopleā go with that. You can find them here. I recommend āthe dialectical biologistā which I recently finished. āThe Parable of the Sowerā good dialectical fiction (the sequel too). Stalinās ādialectical and historical materialismā is great. I highly recommend RevLeftās dialectics deep dive series with Mathew Furlong. Itās long and way back in the catalog, but great.
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Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y
Anyone who mentions Tito and 'good old times, can't miss.
deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Maybe if they talk about "Unequal Exchange" and the Global South, and I'm pretty sure you've got a potential tongzhi
Aru@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
You say PSPSPSPSPSPSPS because we're all cute catboy/catgirls
felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y
In Brazil I recognized one by listening to a rap song by Racionais MC's about Marighella and he complimented me lol
ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Ask them to browse linkedin for 10min and watch their facial expression.
Imnecomrade@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
I know this doesn't answer your question, but if you are looking to meet comrades, find your local communist party. If one doesn't exist, there may be a pre-branch starting, and you should get in contact with a party like PSL to find out if there is one near you or even help start one. I contacted PSL and luckily found a pre-branch near me, and now I am helping with building it to become an official branch. I have met some pretty cool people this way. We come in all shapes and colors, and we each have our own mannerisms and come from different stages in our journey towards ML.
If you are not from the US, I hope the same advice still applies.
Mr_Blott@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Could you not just ask the other kids in your class?
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
My ANTIFA hat is pretty good at making me friends and enemies alike.
MataVatnik@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
If they start talking about how they ate led paint chips as a child