You don't hate them. You hate the system that educated them to think like that.
When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor. - Paulo Freire
Our only way out is to study more, to be better prepared when these conversations happen, and to continue organising where possible.
But also remembering that most people won't be reasoned out of ignorance. It's through emotion, commitment and trust from people that understand themselves as equals that they listen. Right now, you feel enlightened and superior to them. This is not the way.
Also, I may be wrong. Happy for comrades to argue against me.
If you just state it's religious, you open up space for "Muslim bad", or "Christian bad" arguments. Which lead to nonsense and prosecution to specific peoples
If you use imperialism concepts, everything fits well together, and it leads to structural criticism of capitalism, and prosecution (to use the same word) against oppressive ideas and power structures, not against specific peoples.
But I can agree that imperialistic forces oppress religions that are not the same as theirs, if that's what you meant.
I'm making this thing. It's not by any means complete, but maybe it helps?
It's... Dry, and mechanical. But it exists.
And then there's the study group in lemmygrad, which is... A bit slow, but you can start the posts and do your own reviews. Probably will cause people to join you. :)
How would you like to read/study it?
I will agree that many things are really hard to understand without context. I was reading Lenin on what is to be done, and the multiple groups he mentions just don't make any sense to me.
Maybe it should trigger me to make notes and go after the names. But life happens, you know?
Have you seen people overrate "common sense"? That's it.
Don't think deeply, go for common sense, disregard the specialists, we can't understand their areas of study, therefore they are lying.
Also, avoid studying humanities: history, philosophy, sociology, politics. That will make you poor! Stay technical and mathy, don't worry about anything else other than making money! Have a life project! Get rich!
That's the anti intellectual speech.
Who benefits from the smart peoples of the world not questioning the status quo, and the building blocks of capitalism?
What if I wanted to sell my whole remaining time for the benefit of the ones I love, in the form of organs?
Should we allow money to buy anything? Or should we actually make people less desperate so that they are not willing to sacrifice all they have for peanuts?
How do you guarantee pizza ads if the jesus ministries are pushing that sweet money around, too?
Hell, no! The world is happier without the ad industry. The Internet was run basically on pure voluntary effort, and it was great. The ads didn't make it viable, it always was.
Well, yeah. I know some of that stuff indirectly. Haven't been here for long, but there's a few of the concepts that appear over and over again, and are useful in actual conversation, even if sometimes not perfectly precise.
I'll start using "the material conditions of this codebase won't allow for the unfolding of such feature". Or something.
It's really hard to dig deeper into all/most of the concepts.
When studying or in classes I usually take note of structure, questions, and stuff I find unexpected.
In structure, I just go for quick notes on how one topic flows into another expectedly. Means no surprises and I can probably retrace those steps myself.
Then I note in questions to be asked or researched about specific points. I don't usually note down the answer unless unexpected.
And then, I note the unexpected things, where I think I can't derive myself from the overarching structure. Terminology and specifics usually fall under this category.
If everything is unexpected, well, that's a sign that maybe I'm not ready for that level of content yet. So I'll generally go for more introductory content before I tackle it again.
On a side note, I don't personally annotate books, but lots of researchers do (I'm not a researcher), and actually defend that respecting a book is annotating it thoroughly. So. That's another take on it. :)
Yes. "common sense" is the repetition of dominant ideology. They can bang on "common sense" and destroy things. We have to deconstruct common sense so. That we can build the future.
You don't hate them. You hate the system that educated them to think like that.
Our only way out is to study more, to be better prepared when these conversations happen, and to continue organising where possible.
But also remembering that most people won't be reasoned out of ignorance. It's through emotion, commitment and trust from people that understand themselves as equals that they listen. Right now, you feel enlightened and superior to them. This is not the way.
Also, I may be wrong. Happy for comrades to argue against me.
If you just state it's religious, you open up space for "Muslim bad", or "Christian bad" arguments. Which lead to nonsense and prosecution to specific peoples
If you use imperialism concepts, everything fits well together, and it leads to structural criticism of capitalism, and prosecution (to use the same word) against oppressive ideas and power structures, not against specific peoples.
But I can agree that imperialistic forces oppress religions that are not the same as theirs, if that's what you meant.
It's not a religious conflict. It's an imperialistic conflict.
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1710144
I'm making this thing. It's not by any means complete, but maybe it helps?
It's... Dry, and mechanical. But it exists.
And then there's the study group in lemmygrad, which is... A bit slow, but you can start the posts and do your own reviews. Probably will cause people to join you. :)
How would you like to read/study it?
I will agree that many things are really hard to understand without context. I was reading Lenin on what is to be done, and the multiple groups he mentions just don't make any sense to me.
Maybe it should trigger me to make notes and go after the names. But life happens, you know?
Anyway, that's my struggle, you're not alone. :)
Revanced?
Have you seen people overrate "common sense"? That's it.
Don't think deeply, go for common sense, disregard the specialists, we can't understand their areas of study, therefore they are lying.
Also, avoid studying humanities: history, philosophy, sociology, politics. That will make you poor! Stay technical and mathy, don't worry about anything else other than making money! Have a life project! Get rich!
That's the anti intellectual speech.
Who benefits from the smart peoples of the world not questioning the status quo, and the building blocks of capitalism?
I love it's a nitter link.
That's exactly the point.
How much of our lives can money buy?
What if I wanted to sell my whole remaining time for the benefit of the ones I love, in the form of organs?
Should we allow money to buy anything? Or should we actually make people less desperate so that they are not willing to sacrifice all they have for peanuts?
Who makes the laws?
Do the people making the laws respect the laws they create?
They create the laws for whom?
Citation needed for "most Linux users use adblockers"
How do you guarantee pizza ads if the jesus ministries are pushing that sweet money around, too?
Hell, no! The world is happier without the ad industry. The Internet was run basically on pure voluntary effort, and it was great. The ads didn't make it viable, it always was.
The real question is: can consent be bought?
Yes, please? I know "on contradiction" is in the queue. But those things take time. :D
Speech 100! Hahaha
Well, yeah. I know some of that stuff indirectly. Haven't been here for long, but there's a few of the concepts that appear over and over again, and are useful in actual conversation, even if sometimes not perfectly precise.
I'll start using "the material conditions of this codebase won't allow for the unfolding of such feature". Or something.
It's really hard to dig deeper into all/most of the concepts.
I also just remembered of "contradiction".
I was there in 2007. I'm happy to see some noise again, after those were demobilised back then.
It's important because it's visible, it teaches you all young peoples how to organise and talk politically. Definitely taught me a lot.
Love it!
Notice I didn't specifically ask about how they look. My example was about something they/we say.
What's something someone would do/say that would have you think "one of us", about them?
When studying or in classes I usually take note of structure, questions, and stuff I find unexpected.
In structure, I just go for quick notes on how one topic flows into another expectedly. Means no surprises and I can probably retrace those steps myself.
Then I note in questions to be asked or researched about specific points. I don't usually note down the answer unless unexpected.
And then, I note the unexpected things, where I think I can't derive myself from the overarching structure. Terminology and specifics usually fall under this category.
If everything is unexpected, well, that's a sign that maybe I'm not ready for that level of content yet. So I'll generally go for more introductory content before I tackle it again.
On a side note, I don't personally annotate books, but lots of researchers do (I'm not a researcher), and actually defend that respecting a book is annotating it thoroughly. So. That's another take on it. :)
Or, you know. Just stop using reddit.
Yes. "common sense" is the repetition of dominant ideology. They can bang on "common sense" and destroy things. We have to deconstruct common sense so. That we can build the future.