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c/worldnews · by dx1@lemmy.world · 2y

Israel admits airstrike on ambulance near hospital that witnesses say killed and wounded dozens | CNN

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/03/middleeast/casualties-gazas-shifa-hospital-idf/

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SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 2y (2 replies)

News: Israel did bad thing.

People: This is bad, if true.

Israel: It's true.

People: That's bad.

Israel: WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL ALL JEWS?

Machinist3359@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Even as a joke, please don't conflate israel with Judaism. It is not like the Vatican, it is an evil government trying to hide behind real antisemitism.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

please don't conflate israel with Judaism.

My dude, I'm pointing out the fact that Israel calls the slightest concern for the Palestinian people antisemitism. If you have a problem with that, take it up with pick an Israeli official or boot licker.

atk007@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2y (1 reply)

They aren't just admitting, they are gloating at this point, and the rest of other world hypocrites are staying quiet like bitches.

EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

I'm not a religiolist, but we're we taught to turn the other cheek?

SulaymanF@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Horrific. The war crimes continue and nobody is even raising criticism anymore.

rockSlayer@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2y

Criticism is out there. You just have to look for it, because it's being suppressed.

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y

November 4, National March on Washington: Free Palestine!.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

Well, you are not allowed to criticize Israel politics - you'll be branded "antisemitic" in a New York second. Israel has turned this move into an art form over the last 40+ years.

Destraight@lemm.ee · -7 pts · 2y (3 replies)
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dx1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Come on man. Israel doesn't represent all Jewish people.

Destraight@lemm.ee · -4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

73.8 percent of Israel are Jews. I think it's safe to say that

GreenSkree@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

That's still a fallacy. Even if all A are B, that doesn't mean all B are A.

Same fallacy structure that's clearly false: All nazis were white, so all white people are nazis.

ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 2y (11 replies)

There's a record of Hamas using ambulances to transport fighters, as Israel claims. Most of these incidents are covered in Israeli newspapers which I'm sure plenty of people will write off as biased, but a quick search brings up even the Journal of Emergency Medical Services talking about it during a previous conflict: https://www.jems.com/operations/ambulances-vehicle-ops/hamas-tried-hijack-ambulances/

It doesn't make sense to attack ambulances specifically to kill civilians: doing so kills relatively few people and looks terrible in the international news.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y (4 replies)

It doesn't make sense to attack ambulances specifically to kill civilians

Nor does it make sense to go to the west bank and shoot random Palestinians, or to use white phosphorus in incredibly densely populated areas, or bomb an entire refugee camp twice to maybe kill one bad guy, yet here we are.

downpunxx@kbin.social · -4 pts · 2y (3 replies)

you forgot "but the uss liberty", you nazi fuck

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

"I don't like war crimes."

"Nazi!"

Love it. Truly amazing discourse. Say the thing about how shooting journalists is Israel defending itself.

be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Well I did check the wikipedia article and it doesn't seem to say that Hamas was hiding weapons there, sooo...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

True but I also bet 10 bucks if you asked an Israeli official on Twitter whether there was a hamas cache on the liberty they'd confirm it and then delete the tweet once they realized what they said.

derphurr@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y

Let's see... Red Cross accuses Israeli forces of killing two ambulance workers (2006) https://doi.org/10.1136%2Fbmj.39041.573403.DB

“This is not the first incidence of paramedics being attacked by the IDF, not the second, and unfortunately not the last,” said Maskit Bendel, director of projects for Physicians for Human Rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. “As early as 2002, during Operation Defensive Shield, we were forced to file three petitions against the IDF for hitting medical teams while they were evacuating the sick and injured. Consequently the IDF promised not to hit the teams while they were doing their work, and even to help them, but this did not happen.”

So while it doesn't make sense to non-genocidal people, Israel has been doing this for decades. Please admit you are mistaken and they have enough US military technology and their own intelligence to undeniably know who they are targeting and killing in ambulances. There are so many documented examples, it boggles the mind comments like yours can exist.

BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y

It doesn't make sense to attack ambulances specifically to kill civilians: doing so kills relatively few people and looks terrible in the international news.

It does if your intent is to terrorize a group of people into complete submission.

You were so close to actual awareness there, so very close.

bababooey@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y (2 replies)

It makes sense when you consider that the goal is to terrorize a populace, and not to engage with enemy combatants

downpunxx@kbin.social · -1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

you mean like when the "Palestinians" fire hundreds of thousands of rockets at Israeli civilian populations, or 4000 "Palestinian" Muslim Arab terrorists storm across the Israeli border to rape, then kill close to two thousand civilians, and only civilians. slaughter, then rape other over the bodies of the friends of those they had previously raped and slaughtered, decapitate children, burn them alive?

like that, or worse?

bababooey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Thanks for your response that you think Israel is allowed to murder kids. Very cool

Machinist3359@kbin.social · -1 pts · 2y

^^Certified war crime enjoyer