With only a few weeks left in the year (and we can all expect some of us may not be around as much during that time), now seems as good a time as any to reflect on the year and all that we've seen so far!
So with that said:
Matches, wrestlers, companies, what really stood out for you during 2023? What was your highest of highs, and lowest of lows. Did any wrestler go above and beyond your expectations? Did any big match you were waiting for end up being a huge let down? What company's booking did you like and hate the most during the year? Let us know what you think of how everything has gone down below!
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Neon_Carnivore@kbin.social · 5 pts · 2y
I'll likely be editing/updating this later because I really need time to think about this and I was supposed to be asleep for work over an hour ago.Decided instead to just do a little formatting on this post and then continue my thoughts as comments below it.
Yuka Sakazaki leaving TJPW:
AEW's "one match division":
Ring of Elevation:
Or at the very least they could FUCKING PROMOTE IT. RoH has a ppv THIS WEEKEND that's included as part of the Honor club subscription and I can't recall a single instance of it even being mentioned on television.They finally mentioned it on last night's Dynamite.WWE:
AEW/RoH in general:
Falling asleep... need to stop for now.Continued below.
Neon_Carnivore@kbin.social · 5 pts · 2y
DDT:
Impact/TNA:
More TJPW:
Miscellaneous stuff:
Miscellaneous Good stuff:
GeekFTW@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
DDT/Brooks: I need to watch a lot more DDT (read: any) but I've always loved Brooks since seeing him on some random YouTube videos.
Yamashita/Itoh: Ditto. I haven't paid anywhere near as much attention to TJPW as I do Stardom so I don't know how things go but losing Yuka and possibly Yamashita and Itoh would be a pretty huge blow (and legit 3 of the like 6 people I know on the roster lol). Idk how they're 'rookie' process works but I hope they have people who'll be able to come in to beef up the roster a bit.
Neon_Carnivore@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
Barring injuries and excursions, TJPW tends to have most of, if not the whole roster on the card (thanks primarily to LOTS of tag matches) for every show, so it doesn't take long to familiarize yourself and find a favorite.
But they have a very strict hierarchy in their booking, so expect rookies' only victories to be either against each other, or when tagging with someone further up the food chain. It can take YEARS for someone to truly move up the card, which is the most common complaint among TJPW fans.
The second most common gripe is most of the girls don't "lay it in" when striking, drop kicking, etc. Some of this can be blamed on camera angles, and in the case of the rookies, lack of experience. It becomes less of an issue further up the card, though.
We also got a nice handful of promising rookies in 2023, as well as a new Up Up Girl.
A new year typically means new rookies, so expect some new roster members to debut soon.
GeekFTW@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
Makes sense.
I think someone somewhere described it to me once as 'TJPW is a bunch of friends wanting to see who is the better wrestler, STARDOM is a bunch of women who wanna kill each other but can make friendships' lol.
Neon_Carnivore@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
That pretty much nails it, yeah.
TellumSiege@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
Disclaimer: there's way more negative below than there should be. Especially with AEW. Ultimately, there's been a lot more good than bad over the year but I think recency bias is at play. The “bad” section is a quick rant I was going to post in the last discussion thread but I decided not to because I thought it was too negative lol.
AEW:
The Good: All-In was incredible. And nearly every PPV delivered as always. Full Gear was a bit funky with MJF-Switchblade but the street fight more than made up for it.
The Bad: The women's division is still rough–that's been a problem since the start of AEW. But lately, I've noticed the tag division is getting nearly zero attention as well. What happened to the amount of attention tag teams had at the beginning of AEW? They seem like an afterthought at this point. For the past few weeks, the same could be said about the trios belts.
Next, the devil storyline. It was great to start but now that story has had the same beat over and over: either the henchmen beat up some guys in the back or the devil shows up on screen and laughs. It was interesting when I thought they'd be revealed at Full Gear but now it's just the same thing week in and week out. At this point I almost don't care who the devil is. The payoff won't be good enough to justify the build.
And finally, I like variety in my wrestling and lately it's just been wrestling match after wrestling match. This past week we had ZERO in-ring promos. Everything is backstage now and it just doesn't hit the same for me.
TNA/IMPACT:
The Good:
-Alex Shelley’s title run.
-Speedball just doing Speedball things–he may be my favourite wrestler to watch these days.
-Re-naming Impact to TNA.
The Bad:
-Tommy Dreamer’s run as digital media champion. That should be a belt for younger wrestlers or at least people who are liked on social media.
-The IPWF only getting one show a year. I need more of that silliness in my life.
-The break between BfG to the new year. I understand why they did it (new production set-up and whatnot) but BfG was very well received and Impact didn't really capitalize on that.
GeekFTW@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y
Agreed on the tag situation. I typed up a paragraph responding to this but I had to literally go double check who the tag champs are cause it's not Adam Cole/MJF. I watch every episode of AEW, the fact that I just now forgot they're the ROH champs and forgot Bill/Starks are the AEW ones says a bit.
Re: The Devil - Ditto. I just don't think I care much anymore.
::: spoiler iirc the group is supposed to be (per the dirt sheets)
Wardlow/Strong/The Kingdom
:::
..but that was also reported idk 2 fucking months ago idc anymore lol.
TellumSiege@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y
I don't blame you. I've had to remember who the tag champs are too. And it's unfortunate the champs and #1 contenders are two teams of guys randomly thrown together (Bill/Starks and Omega/Jericho). I know many of the other teams are out with injuries, but still…
I haven't checked the spoiler for the devil. But ultimately, the story has had the same beat every week. I just want them to switch it up. Like, what if MJF actually “caught” one of the henchmen and unmasked him (someone who wouldn't giveaway the devil outright)? Then tied him to a chair and interrogated him to try and find out who the devil is with no success? It's not the best angle but at least it's different from the same old same old.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Pros
Cons
ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 2y
All In was magical. Not any particular match (though the matches were great), but merely the fact that someone other than WWE was able to fill 80,000 seats. The atmosphere was just insane to see.
GeekFTW@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
You ain't kidding, felt crazy.
tankplanker@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
I really wish I could have afforded to go, but where I wanted to sit was just way too expensive for my budget. Thats not an AEW problem but a demand issue, which is a backhanded complement to how much demand there was even with 80k seats available.
I really enjoyed the show, which is a great bonus.
_chrib_@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y
My personal highlight this year was going to All In in London from Germany. Disgusting expensive four days in London, but worth every penny. Went to the Revolution Pro Anniversay Show on the day before All In to to see Will Osprey vs. Shingo Takagi and was blown away by that show, with suprise appearance by Skye Blue, Mickey James and Chris Jericho and whole lot of RevPro and NJPW talent.
All In was spectacular, the atmosphere was crazy. Beeing surrounded by nearly 80.000 wrestling fans is something I will never forget. I wish I had a better view though, the action in the ring is hard to follow if you're sitting to far away.
The downside of the weekend was the trip back home. Monday after All In the air traffic control in the UK broke down, my flight got canceled, had to reschedule onto the next day just to get it canceled again. So I had to spent two extra days in London and had to take the train to Brussels, from Brussels to Cologne and form Cologne to Berlin. Luckily the airline had to cover all the additional expenses.
The WWE House show in Berlin was also very good.
And now some general thoughts: AEW: I wish AEW would feature more women than just Toni Storm, Skye Blue, Julia, Willow, Saraya, Ruby Soho and Hikaru Shida. One match per show is is not enough. On the plus side though, Julia has really improved a lot since joining the House of Black. Orange Cassidy has really one me over with his first title rain as International Champion, even though I think it was a little too long.
NJPW: Eddie Kingston in the G1 was really fun to see. Lowlight of NJPW for me was EVIL stealing Sanadas belt and proclaiming himself champion. House of Torture is such a trainwreck that I usually skip their matches. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to watch NJPW regularly.
Montagge@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y
The best:
https://youtu.be/tybugI5CkIs?si=Q95ssNYbMzhOeKCO
The Good:
Every AEW PPV
The rise of Julia
Tanahashi. Nuff said.
How Jeff Jarrett has been used in AEW. I know it was November of last year that he debuted, but it really wasn't until well into this year I relaxed and enjoyed his character work.
Getting to see Sting at a show before he retires.
MJF's title reign
Dante getting healthy enough to wrestle again within the year
Malaki's back getting better
Red Velvet and Statlander coming back after knee injuries
The Continental Classic
Orange Cassidy's first international title run
Everything Toni Storm does
Don Callis' paintings
#NeckStrong
BTDO
The Bad:
CM Punk and the no good terrible day
Statlander's current gimmick and TBS title reign
Shida getting the women's title losing it getting it and losing it again. Give her an actual title reign that isn't in the middle of a pandemic!
Leg injuries. So many leg injuries.
WWE preventing a streaming deal for MLW
Chris Jericho dragging down everyone around him and not getting younger talent over. I don't think anyone came out of the JAS in a better state.
ROH titles on AEW
Ric Flair on TV
The makes me sad but not necessarily bad:
Jade leaving AEW
hellothere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
I'm gonna ignore lows cos frankly there is enough negativity in the IWC as it is. I also feel the answer is obvious.
For highs, a few things stand out, but the main thing is being able to finally get back to going to shows.
Since I was a kid I've wanted to go the Wrestlemania, but have never been able to afford it (transatlantic travel, hotels, tickets, etc etc etc). For a wrestlemania-level show to happen not just in the UK but at Wembley was absolutely insane, and while huge arena shows are not my favourite thing, All In was a great day.
I've also been able to get back to regularly attending North shows, I haven't been since the pandemic, and it's great to be introduced to a whole new generation of britwres. Leon Slater in particular is incredible, and he's going to blow people away in TNA next year. I couldn't be happier for the lad.
GeekFTW@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y
Guess I'll go by company for grins:
AEW: I still love em, they're still the primary promotion I watch, but there's still a lot of people who need more tv time who aren't getting it. The women's division is showing the odd small signs of it heading towards improvement but I have little faith of TK booking more women's matches. Loving seeing the changes with Julia & Skye, hate how Wardlow just TKO's people via powerbomb still. As another birdie mentioned, All In was fucking nuts.
WWE: I may not watch much, but the quality has def improved over time. Love seeing Judgment Day stuff, over anything related to Roman (when he appears). Waiting to see Bailey get killed by Asuka cause that's gonna be a meme!
Impact/TNA: I've been on and off with them over the years, but things this last year have been better and better and I'm really looking forward to TNA.
ROH: I need this to be on TV. I know the show is at least part developmental right now, but they're still booking some great damn matches that should be seen by more people without the paywall. Athena has been doing fantastic, same with Billy (and Lexy as a minion too has been great). Yeah it's AEW Jr. but I do like AEW so I can't be too mad. I do however in 2024 wanna see more roster separation. There's already some, and I don't mind some crossover between AEW and ROH, but the roster has (in my own views) only like 6-10 people who I would consider "ROH people" based on how often they're on the shows compared to being on AEW.
Stardom: I hope the new schedule that comes is gonna be a lot better on the women. Too many injuries (and mismanagement) have fucked Stardom a bit. All of the women still manage to put on amazing shows. Queen's Quest vs Oedo Tai at Stardom Sunshine in June (the cage match) is still one of my fav matches of the year.