Expectations is the main difference. Servers are expected much more than Jake and Emelie. Very few people go to a full service restaurant and are ok receiving the same service they do at McDonald's. That's understandable, the price between both is significant but I do think if full service servers were only expected to provide the same level of service and expertise as Jake and Emelie they'd be like, "fuck yeah!" Where are as the opposite wouldn't be welcome without a raise by Jake and Emelie. I feel it's important to consider this to further the discussion otherwise we're no better than current Reddit.
I may have misunderstood the question. Restaurants who have adopted no tipping add the 20% charge in one way or another. Either the food costs more or there's a service fee.
I would like the charge to stay the same but the waiter still gets a living wage but it's absurd to believe that will happen and may be unrealistic to expect that it should. I don't know what profit margin any given restaurant has but none will give up 20% of profits and a lot may not be able to remain open if they have to. In any scenario the business would have to change beyond recognition. The ones who choose to adapt may just fire the waiters and have you order through a machine and then you don't have to tip but that business model already exists in most fast food chains.
No, but we shouldn't expect to pay less if they stop receiving tips and the employer pays them instead. I think a lot of people make this assumption. In reality it'll be more like you don't have to tip but your meal is 20% more expensive.
What car do you have? I've been shopping for a while for when my wife's Prius dies. I'm not looking to judge if it's a Tesla but would appreciate if you would share your experience.
For some people it being fake does ruin it. For a lot (me included) the idea itself is funny. When George Carlin was describing the first time he made a joke, the description described comedy to me. I don't know exactly what he said but along the lines of: the first time I told a joke it was to my mother. I made her laugh. It was the first time I twisted an idea in such a way that it was funny.
So yeah, two people can look at the same photo/scenario and the person providing a perspective that seems absurd and funny is the comedian. Sorry it's late but I hope I made sense.
I'm not that optimistic anymore especially with a comment like that. Even if you know nothing about the immigration experience I think you'd have to ignore a lot for that to even be a question. Nobody goes through that much hardship to get to a place like the US and then goes like "k bye! I'm vacationing in Europe and doing it all over again"
I hope they were enlightened at some point but I've also ran into well traveled people with the same mindset.
I used to think this. Then some girl in Poland asked me "so are you like, illegal?" When I told her I was Mexican. I've ran into other assholes while traveling but I still remember her.
Homeboy is insecure and a coward. I've been around similar idiots. They feel insecure in front of the bros they're trying to impress so they pick on someone they think will not defend themselves. In my case they pick on me being short. Dumbasses aren't even creative so it's easy to snap right back having heard their jokes a million times. They don't like that. They're super sensitive. Dump his ass, you deserve better. All he's going to do is double down. If you cave, it will only get worse.
From a movie hitman perspective sure. Real life "hits" don't look like they do in the movies though. You can find videos of truly amateurish hits online easily. The most violent cities in US see them happen often. Whomever this person did this was calm, seemed disciplined, got the job done. On a scale from drive by to James Bond, I'd put him solidly in the middle.
There's that quote that said something along the lines of give poor white men someone to look down on and they'll empty their pockets for you. I think that's one of the reasons latino voters voted for Trump. There was a lot of misinformation demonizing Venezuelan immigrants in spanish and I think that led a lot of these morons to believe they were part of the "in" group and they would benefit.
I have a suspicion and this comment section is confirming that. I briefly worked putting places together for short term rentals. Sometimes I had to put together IKEA furniture, other times it was "real wood" furniture. As in, the label claimed it was real wood. This "real wood" however always looked suspicious to me. The feel wasn't there, the grain was barely convincing, no mention of any species, some "mistakes" seemed odd such as a random saw cut in an otherwise well finished piece. They were always manufactured somewhere in SEA. My guess is "real wood" has no clear definition as evidenced in this comment section and some people see it as an interchangeable term for good quality. So manufacturers can design something that looks like a solid white oak bench and charge premium for it. After all they've made no promises. If it were for instance engineered out of bamboo, it is in fact real wood Or can be defended as such.
I've been watching a couple debates involving Trump supporters. They all do some version of this. "I like his policies" "ok, can you name a policy of his you approve of" they can never come up with any. In almost any other scenario this would be funny. It's hopeless.
I completely understand. I've caught myself saying to my fiance "that's a work truck" a lot whenever I see trucks I like. I drive a truck that I use for work. My definition of a work truck is a lot like mine, not a small bed, if there is a lift it's for function, not looks so unless you know what you're looking at you don't notice it. It's got a single or extended cab and it's got some dings and scratches. If you don't know the size of the bed in your truck you don't use it enough. I haul sheets of plywood and drywall often and an 8ft bed would be great but my 6.5 does the job just fine. I'm changing jobs so I don't know if I'll need it anymore but that truck was my livelihood for a long time.
Expectations is the main difference. Servers are expected much more than Jake and Emelie. Very few people go to a full service restaurant and are ok receiving the same service they do at McDonald's. That's understandable, the price between both is significant but I do think if full service servers were only expected to provide the same level of service and expertise as Jake and Emelie they'd be like, "fuck yeah!" Where are as the opposite wouldn't be welcome without a raise by Jake and Emelie. I feel it's important to consider this to further the discussion otherwise we're no better than current Reddit.
I don't know why I didn't see this before but thank you very much. This is helpful.
I may have misunderstood the question. Restaurants who have adopted no tipping add the 20% charge in one way or another. Either the food costs more or there's a service fee.
I would like the charge to stay the same but the waiter still gets a living wage but it's absurd to believe that will happen and may be unrealistic to expect that it should. I don't know what profit margin any given restaurant has but none will give up 20% of profits and a lot may not be able to remain open if they have to. In any scenario the business would have to change beyond recognition. The ones who choose to adapt may just fire the waiters and have you order through a machine and then you don't have to tip but that business model already exists in most fast food chains.
No, but we shouldn't expect to pay less if they stop receiving tips and the employer pays them instead. I think a lot of people make this assumption. In reality it'll be more like you don't have to tip but your meal is 20% more expensive.
What car do you have? I've been shopping for a while for when my wife's Prius dies. I'm not looking to judge if it's a Tesla but would appreciate if you would share your experience.
It was a pet peeve of mine to watch people put a small item in a bag, wrap the whole thing and hand carry it.
For some people it being fake does ruin it. For a lot (me included) the idea itself is funny. When George Carlin was describing the first time he made a joke, the description described comedy to me. I don't know exactly what he said but along the lines of: the first time I told a joke it was to my mother. I made her laugh. It was the first time I twisted an idea in such a way that it was funny.
So yeah, two people can look at the same photo/scenario and the person providing a perspective that seems absurd and funny is the comedian. Sorry it's late but I hope I made sense.
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I'm not that optimistic anymore especially with a comment like that. Even if you know nothing about the immigration experience I think you'd have to ignore a lot for that to even be a question. Nobody goes through that much hardship to get to a place like the US and then goes like "k bye! I'm vacationing in Europe and doing it all over again" I hope they were enlightened at some point but I've also ran into well traveled people with the same mindset.
I used to think this. Then some girl in Poland asked me "so are you like, illegal?" When I told her I was Mexican. I've ran into other assholes while traveling but I still remember her.
Homeboy is insecure and a coward. I've been around similar idiots. They feel insecure in front of the bros they're trying to impress so they pick on someone they think will not defend themselves. In my case they pick on me being short. Dumbasses aren't even creative so it's easy to snap right back having heard their jokes a million times. They don't like that. They're super sensitive. Dump his ass, you deserve better. All he's going to do is double down. If you cave, it will only get worse.
From a movie hitman perspective sure. Real life "hits" don't look like they do in the movies though. You can find videos of truly amateurish hits online easily. The most violent cities in US see them happen often. Whomever this person did this was calm, seemed disciplined, got the job done. On a scale from drive by to James Bond, I'd put him solidly in the middle.
There's that quote that said something along the lines of give poor white men someone to look down on and they'll empty their pockets for you. I think that's one of the reasons latino voters voted for Trump. There was a lot of misinformation demonizing Venezuelan immigrants in spanish and I think that led a lot of these morons to believe they were part of the "in" group and they would benefit.
Wow! I skimmed through the article and legitimately thought it was an onion article until I read your comment.
I have a suspicion and this comment section is confirming that. I briefly worked putting places together for short term rentals. Sometimes I had to put together IKEA furniture, other times it was "real wood" furniture. As in, the label claimed it was real wood. This "real wood" however always looked suspicious to me. The feel wasn't there, the grain was barely convincing, no mention of any species, some "mistakes" seemed odd such as a random saw cut in an otherwise well finished piece. They were always manufactured somewhere in SEA. My guess is "real wood" has no clear definition as evidenced in this comment section and some people see it as an interchangeable term for good quality. So manufacturers can design something that looks like a solid white oak bench and charge premium for it. After all they've made no promises. If it were for instance engineered out of bamboo, it is in fact real wood Or can be defended as such.
I've been watching a couple debates involving Trump supporters. They all do some version of this. "I like his policies" "ok, can you name a policy of his you approve of" they can never come up with any. In almost any other scenario this would be funny. It's hopeless.
I like trying to figure it out. It's one of my favorite things about Lemmy that I can find non US focused communities.
Yeah? Big whoop.
I completely understand. I've caught myself saying to my fiance "that's a work truck" a lot whenever I see trucks I like. I drive a truck that I use for work. My definition of a work truck is a lot like mine, not a small bed, if there is a lift it's for function, not looks so unless you know what you're looking at you don't notice it. It's got a single or extended cab and it's got some dings and scratches. If you don't know the size of the bed in your truck you don't use it enough. I haul sheets of plywood and drywall often and an 8ft bed would be great but my 6.5 does the job just fine. I'm changing jobs so I don't know if I'll need it anymore but that truck was my livelihood for a long time.