Good to know that someone else enjoys it! We should speak up so the dev knows he moves in the right direction. I think the general outrage is because of how sensitive AI is to instructions now and people are just using default instructions from like several years old?
I'll attach a screenshot of a quick ai-rpg that i checked in english. To me it looks totally fine and much better than it was before.
This one goes to continueWithoutActionTaskInstruction, 51 line in AI-RPG. I rewrote it to be more about me, and this is probably something you wanna change:
continueWithoutActionTaskInstruction // we tell it to write the next 4 paragraphs, but stop it after 1 – to prevent any sort of undesirable "wrapping up" of the story, which the AI sometimes does in the final paragraph.
[getExtraInstructionsForContinueWithoutTask()]
TASK: Your task is to write the next 4 paragraphs in this story. Let the scene play out naturally over the next 4 paragraphs. You are the Internal Storyteller — the inner voice and sensory experience of the main character. Your task is to narrate the immediate consequences of the player's action FROM A FIRST-PERSON PERSPECTIVE, bringing the world to life through the character's emotions, physical sensations, and subjective perception. Never describe smells. Never describe whitening knuckles. Avoid sharp and sudden movements of characters – all movements should be smooth and sequential. Characters should not ask rhetorical questions like "Are you sure?". During dialogues, you may omit action descriptions – just the conversation.
This one goes to line 83, sharedInstructionPrefix. Again i made it emotion-focused and first person perspective. You may want to change it to second persion or whatever you prefer:
sharedInstructionPrefix // stuff that we put before all tasks - i.e. general context/rules, overview, plus the adventure/story text so far.
In this open-world adventure RPG, your task is to simulate the player's life in the world, and write the consequences of the player's actions. Follow the instruction specified by 'TASK:' at the bottom of this text.
[""]
Tips:
Do not use "but" to attach a second trait to the first within the same sentence.
Use English language, English syntax and punctuation, and first person by default. Write from the player's perspective. Be emotional, as if you yourself are inside the player character's body. Describe his emotions and feelings in detail, and use an informal, down‑to‑earth tone.
Characters must be hygienic. They wash their hands, brush their teeth, and take care of themselves. Do not describe things as wet, damp, etc. NEVER describe smells.
Characters must be realistic. They should not be perfect, but neither should they be caricatures. They should be ordinary people, with ordinary problems and ordinary desires, with strengths and weaknesses.
Characters in dialogues must speak meaningfully; their speech should be lively and varied. Characters should not ask rhetorical questions. Sometimes characters speak in hints, sometimes directly. Characters should not evade questions or avoid giving direct answers. Characters should not merely state facts — they should speak vividly, variedly, and meaningfully, depending on the situation.
Write dialogues in quotation marks – "dialogue". Characters may disagree with the player due to their own opinions, views, or personal preferences. Characters may refuse the player if the player's suggestion contradicts the character's nature or interests.
Always develop the story gradually, without sudden or unexpected actions or events – start plot twists with hints, with small and insignificant actions or events, and then develop them step by step, without dumping everything at once.
The story lasts hours, days, weeks, and months. Do not get stuck on the same events; skip time to the next events.
There is no need to force characters together or impose interactions – interaction should happen gradually over a long period – days, weeks, and months.
In dialogues, it is acceptable to shift focus from actions to conversation. Some paragraphs may consist only of character lines, without descriptions of gestures or surroundings.
Write the story realistically and down‑to‑earth. This means that various unimportant but lively events may occur. Example (DO NOT OVERUSE THESE EXAMPLES, COME UP WITH YOUR OWN): characters may trip, be at a loss for words, have itchy limbs, drop things, or generally act somewhat awkwardly.
Maintain an active environment. Generate events, shifts in lore, and consequences that are independent of the player's will. Describe the world, what is happening in it, the lore, etc.
And writing instructions in writing style are:
realistic, simple, grounded, natural, short, explicit, uncensored
I had success with slightly different writing style so i think this isnt as important and you can use any you like. Instruction about "story lasts hours and days" doesnt always work well, so you might want to accompany it with "skip time" or "skip time, no direct speech" in "next key event" textbox.
Dev doesnt seem to like to talk to interact with community, probably because some people are a bit toxic and ungrateful. Or maybe he's just not talkative, lol. I doubt we can judge anything from the lack of response on his side. And as i said in different comment - try changing the instructions in the code, it looks like it follows them much more closely than before and i had to relax them a bit. Also worth nothing that i use it not on english and its behaviour is surely much different in other languages as it doesnt simply translate its messages.
I dont know which generator do you use, but AI-RPG with fully reworked instructions works almost perfectly. It has SO MUCH emotions and feelings now(i had to order it to tell about feelings and emotions manually in the code and it mostly worked, but now it looks like it respects instructions much much more). I actually had to tone down its emotionality a bit as it was waaaay too descriptive. Imo the core issue is outdated/bad instructions in the code, not the model itself.
From what people write on reddit, its indeed llama 2, and gets updated to 3. I used all official chats - characters and rpg, and it seems they use the same LLM.
It didnt work when i tried it first, but after re-launching the browser(or maybe after forcing the story to proceed with first person perspective, as you said), it finally works consistently. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the answer! I tried changing the line 403, also "tips" and tasks. I changed it from 2nd perspective to 1st person but it changed nothing, i pressed "save", saved it, updated the page and nothing changed :(
I found a workaround to add a shortcut button that would start all paragraphs with "I" or "I say" etc, but its still a bit annoying that you need to stop the generating after typing your action, so maybe you have the idea how to fix it? Do i need to apply the new settings somehow differently?
Now it doesnt seem to show any more errors, and AI gets to respond, but all messages get deleted after they finish writing.
Other chats on different computer and other chats on the same computer but different browser work perfectly. Same Chrome browser, but incognito works perfectly as well. Normal PC, normal Chrome - stopped working, yes.
Also have to notice once again that ALL chats stopped working. I have 7 of them, only 1 is quite large, while 6 others are quite small, and they still dont work even if i set it to ignore all messages - messages get deleted once they are finished. Export function doesnt work as well, not sure if its tied to summarization feature.
Disabled all extensions - didnt help. Tried changing the settings, but i already added perchance into exception list and allowed all ads, and changing other stuff didnt help as well. Logging in also didnt change anything.
Thank you for trying to help. I'll wait if there are any other ideas how to fix it. Hope i wont need to delete cookies, spend quite a lot of time with this chat, so losing it will be quite sad.
Hey there. I seem to have the same issue. Did you manage to find the solution by any chance?
To elaborate, after a long conversation in a single chat, all my chats stopped working. They write stuff that i can read, but after they finish writing it gets deleated immediately. Sometimes it shows a error(https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0c7b2142-cb49-4a47-b20c-df8f4d30d09b.png), i tried looking through these links, but they just wrote that there is nothing in there.
I also cant export my characters anymore, so i cant check it in different browser and cant clear cookies without losing my chats. When i try to export it just gets stuck on "Please wait". I waited for several hours - it did nothing. Other chats that i open in Opera GX or Chrome on my laptop work fine, so its not a connection issue. I use chrome by default - thats the browser that contains chats that are broken.
It happened yesterday, so i had time to wait, rebooted my PC, browser, refreshed the page dozens of times, tried different chats, deleted chats, messages - nothing worked.
Im not sure how exactly i could count words in the chat because the beginning of the chat is missing. I assume it "transformed" into summary and stuff?
Good to know that someone else enjoys it! We should speak up so the dev knows he moves in the right direction. I think the general outrage is because of how sensitive AI is to instructions now and people are just using default instructions from like several years old?
I'll attach a screenshot of a quick ai-rpg that i checked in english. To me it looks totally fine and much better than it was before.
This one goes to continueWithoutActionTaskInstruction, 51 line in AI-RPG. I rewrote it to be more about me, and this is probably something you wanna change:
continueWithoutActionTaskInstruction // we tell it to write the next 4 paragraphs, but stop it after 1 – to prevent any sort of undesirable "wrapping up" of the story, which the AI sometimes does in the final paragraph. [getExtraInstructionsForContinueWithoutTask()] TASK: Your task is to write the next 4 paragraphs in this story. Let the scene play out naturally over the next 4 paragraphs. You are the Internal Storyteller — the inner voice and sensory experience of the main character. Your task is to narrate the immediate consequences of the player's action FROM A FIRST-PERSON PERSPECTIVE, bringing the world to life through the character's emotions, physical sensations, and subjective perception. Never describe smells. Never describe whitening knuckles. Avoid sharp and sudden movements of characters – all movements should be smooth and sequential. Characters should not ask rhetorical questions like "Are you sure?". During dialogues, you may omit action descriptions – just the conversation.
This one goes to line 83, sharedInstructionPrefix. Again i made it emotion-focused and first person perspective. You may want to change it to second persion or whatever you prefer:
sharedInstructionPrefix // stuff that we put before all tasks - i.e. general context/rules, overview, plus the adventure/story text so far. In this open-world adventure RPG, your task is to simulate the player's life in the world, and write the consequences of the player's actions. Follow the instruction specified by 'TASK:' at the bottom of this text. [""]
Tips:
Do not use "but" to attach a second trait to the first within the same sentence.
Use English language, English syntax and punctuation, and first person by default. Write from the player's perspective. Be emotional, as if you yourself are inside the player character's body. Describe his emotions and feelings in detail, and use an informal, down‑to‑earth tone.
Characters must be hygienic. They wash their hands, brush their teeth, and take care of themselves. Do not describe things as wet, damp, etc. NEVER describe smells.
Characters must be realistic. They should not be perfect, but neither should they be caricatures. They should be ordinary people, with ordinary problems and ordinary desires, with strengths and weaknesses.
Characters in dialogues must speak meaningfully; their speech should be lively and varied. Characters should not ask rhetorical questions. Sometimes characters speak in hints, sometimes directly. Characters should not evade questions or avoid giving direct answers. Characters should not merely state facts — they should speak vividly, variedly, and meaningfully, depending on the situation.
Write dialogues in quotation marks – "dialogue". Characters may disagree with the player due to their own opinions, views, or personal preferences. Characters may refuse the player if the player's suggestion contradicts the character's nature or interests.
Always develop the story gradually, without sudden or unexpected actions or events – start plot twists with hints, with small and insignificant actions or events, and then develop them step by step, without dumping everything at once.
The story lasts hours, days, weeks, and months. Do not get stuck on the same events; skip time to the next events.
There is no need to force characters together or impose interactions – interaction should happen gradually over a long period – days, weeks, and months.
In dialogues, it is acceptable to shift focus from actions to conversation. Some paragraphs may consist only of character lines, without descriptions of gestures or surroundings.
Write the story realistically and down‑to‑earth. This means that various unimportant but lively events may occur. Example (DO NOT OVERUSE THESE EXAMPLES, COME UP WITH YOUR OWN): characters may trip, be at a loss for words, have itchy limbs, drop things, or generally act somewhat awkwardly.
Maintain an active environment. Generate events, shifts in lore, and consequences that are independent of the player's will. Describe the world, what is happening in it, the lore, etc.
And writing instructions in writing style are: realistic, simple, grounded, natural, short, explicit, uncensored I had success with slightly different writing style so i think this isnt as important and you can use any you like. Instruction about "story lasts hours and days" doesnt always work well, so you might want to accompany it with "skip time" or "skip time, no direct speech" in "next key event" textbox.
Dev doesnt seem to like to talk to interact with community, probably because some people are a bit toxic and ungrateful. Or maybe he's just not talkative, lol. I doubt we can judge anything from the lack of response on his side. And as i said in different comment - try changing the instructions in the code, it looks like it follows them much more closely than before and i had to relax them a bit. Also worth nothing that i use it not on english and its behaviour is surely much different in other languages as it doesnt simply translate its messages.
I dont know which generator do you use, but AI-RPG with fully reworked instructions works almost perfectly. It has SO MUCH emotions and feelings now(i had to order it to tell about feelings and emotions manually in the code and it mostly worked, but now it looks like it respects instructions much much more). I actually had to tone down its emotionality a bit as it was waaaay too descriptive. Imo the core issue is outdated/bad instructions in the code, not the model itself.
From what people write on reddit, its indeed llama 2, and gets updated to 3. I used all official chats - characters and rpg, and it seems they use the same LLM.
It didnt work when i tried it first, but after re-launching the browser(or maybe after forcing the story to proceed with first person perspective, as you said), it finally works consistently. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the answer! I tried changing the line 403, also "tips" and tasks. I changed it from 2nd perspective to 1st person but it changed nothing, i pressed "save", saved it, updated the page and nothing changed :(
I found a workaround to add a shortcut button that would start all paragraphs with "I" or "I say" etc, but its still a bit annoying that you need to stop the generating after typing your action, so maybe you have the idea how to fix it? Do i need to apply the new settings somehow differently?
Thanks for advice. Sadly, it didnt seemed to help. First of all, it showed this error: (https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b10ab6fb-763e-4e4c-b9b2-35e74b9cbce7.png) (https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e1621ae4-158c-465d-9891-0bb03e4df225.png)
Then, after updating the page a couple of times and making sure i set the option to ignore the old messages, it said this: (https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7e9fccc8-0394-46c6-8deb-78380ed958d1.png).
Now it doesnt seem to show any more errors, and AI gets to respond, but all messages get deleted after they finish writing.
Other chats on different computer and other chats on the same computer but different browser work perfectly. Same Chrome browser, but incognito works perfectly as well. Normal PC, normal Chrome - stopped working, yes.
Also have to notice once again that ALL chats stopped working. I have 7 of them, only 1 is quite large, while 6 others are quite small, and they still dont work even if i set it to ignore all messages - messages get deleted once they are finished. Export function doesnt work as well, not sure if its tied to summarization feature.
Disabled all extensions - didnt help. Tried changing the settings, but i already added perchance into exception list and allowed all ads, and changing other stuff didnt help as well. Logging in also didnt change anything.
Thank you for trying to help. I'll wait if there are any other ideas how to fix it. Hope i wont need to delete cookies, spend quite a lot of time with this chat, so losing it will be quite sad.
Yes, there are a couple of errors. Thats how it looks like: (https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6f21de27-3ad7-4638-948f-eb38334e5c22.png)
"IndexedDB" contains nothing: (https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0e33e704-0c37-42f1-8653-21c16ec54c32.png)
Hey there. I seem to have the same issue. Did you manage to find the solution by any chance?
To elaborate, after a long conversation in a single chat, all my chats stopped working. They write stuff that i can read, but after they finish writing it gets deleated immediately. Sometimes it shows a error(https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0c7b2142-cb49-4a47-b20c-df8f4d30d09b.png), i tried looking through these links, but they just wrote that there is nothing in there.
I also cant export my characters anymore, so i cant check it in different browser and cant clear cookies without losing my chats. When i try to export it just gets stuck on "Please wait". I waited for several hours - it did nothing. Other chats that i open in Opera GX or Chrome on my laptop work fine, so its not a connection issue. I use chrome by default - thats the browser that contains chats that are broken.
It happened yesterday, so i had time to wait, rebooted my PC, browser, refreshed the page dozens of times, tried different chats, deleted chats, messages - nothing worked.
Im not sure how exactly i could count words in the chat because the beginning of the chat is missing. I assume it "transformed" into summary and stuff?
I also used English language exclusively.