Are you willing to provide any evidence at all to back up your claims?
I've said no to you twice now.
Understood. This is the full choice of this instance with no hesitation or wavering. I respect that you have the right to make this decision for your instance. Unfortunately, I also respect this.
With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
As you have forged the first link, I will forge the second. Goodbye.
If you have an issue with them, take it up with them but please don’t try to involve us.
I don't. I have an issue with you because you are making these claims. You're asking me to go to the people you're accusing and asking them to prove a negative, if it is false. Something that you know full well is utterly impossible and does not hold up in any court, law or public opinion.
I am going to ask this for the last time.
Are you willing to provide any evidence at all to back up your claims?
If you are not willing to prove your accusations then your accusations are without merit. It also will have demonstrated that Startrek.website is engaging in hostile administration and weaponizing defederation for unknown reasons. Which is all that any other instance would need to defederate from you.
This is your last chance of handling this in a professional manner.
I'm an admin of another instance and questioning your behavior and wondering if its worthy of defederation from my own instance.
I, and others, are simply asking for your evidence that you used to base your decision off of. Is that the answer you want to go with? Complete disregard and dismissal?
Every comment of yours here has been to dismiss everyone while saying "You're not on the instance so it won't change things for you." You are not addressing the problem and, seemingly, waiting for people to have a problem with it only from that instance. The one that you blocked. So are you sure that "Disregard, dismissal, and refusal to elaborate or communicate" is what you want myself and other admins to take away from this post?
Edit: Well, with several more comments posted (including a dodge attempt at providing evidence by saying its against their rules to shame someone) but nothing in response to this, clearly the answer is yes. That is what the administrators of this website want us to take from this. That they do not need to provide evidence, they do not need to clarify, they do not need to elaborate. Now. Combine that with the numerous reports of direct harassment and abuse by members of their admin team. Add on the fact that your modlog shows no activity from any of your admins for months up until last week when this Tesseract stuff started. Then the user of this instance who has been extremely vocal about everything going on. I, as an admin responsible to my users like you are to yours, have to ask myself. Is this really an instance worth staying federated with?
Admins of our instance are having a discussion about defederation. If we decide to do so, we will inform you and our own instance before actually doing it.
As an admin with the same responsibilities, I find it questionable that you've also decided not to give any proof of your claims. Could you please demonstrate some? Otherwise, we (the admins of lemy.lol) will unfortunately have to defederate from Startrek.website in response. There have been a number of reports of the behavior surrounding the administration of this instance to call into question this specific action. This seemingly made directly after an illegal DDOS attack was perpetuated on dbzer0 is... strange. It's more than enough for us at our instance to drop you as well.
We're not entirely comfortable with admins using their instances as a fiefdom. If you want to defederate, I can understand the decision. It is one that I've had to consider numerous times. But to paint an entire instance (the third largest, from what I'm aware) as allowing content that you're refusing to provide evidence for? It's questionable. This made only further by the fact that Corgana and SysAdmin have been demonstrated by others to be the same user in the past as well as the... quite numerous claims of abuse from the admins of this instance. Hell, I've currently got access to screenshots of the admins of this instance requesting another instance to ban a user simply for reporting on the publicly available modlog on YePowerTrippingBastards.
As far as I'm aware, you also haven't taken any public stance on this up until this point. "Final Straw?" What were the first ones? This post leaves far more questions than it does answers. I'd recommend deleting this now and making either a sensible response worthy of an admin or to just drop this entire situation.
Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.
I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.
Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a 'coordinated harassment campaign', then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn't defederate from us over his perception of a frog.
This does not surprise me. When I joined the Lemy.lol team, I was informed that Rimu had pre-emptively defederated from us sometime ago due to our logo. Pepe the frog. His claim was that it was a symbol of alt-right hatred. There is a debate/discussion to be had around that, especially due to the fact the original creator vehemently stands against the bastardization of his creation, but Rimu refused to engage. His mind had been made up. This situation appears to be no different. He is searching for 'proof' to validate his claim of abuse by the administration team of Dbzer0. I suspect this extends from his similarly rabid reaction over the Lemmy.World admin abuse of Anarchist.nexus and its users.
Learning all of this, as well as his added tools to silence people critical of him, I find it both obscenely hypocritical and obscenely suspicious of his behavior here. This accusation appears to be some level of projection, more so than an actual rational conclusion. As we have all learned recently, people who frequently scream one specific conclusion are often guilty of helping come to this conclusion themselves.
Rimu has already been proven to be using a piefed feature to silence dissenting voices.
What else is he doing with Piefed?
Not merely a PTB, but a dangerous one. The developer of Piefed taking these stances deeply shakes all credibility of Piefed as a platform for myself. It appears to be a rebuilding of reddit from the ground up with Spez as its head. It is for this reason that I have fully recommended for Lemy.lol to not have a Piefed instance. Or, at the very least, not a basic piefed instance. We will gladly wait for a fork that has been sanitized.
Lemy.lol has a new administration team. We stand with Dbzer0 against Lemmy.world's flagrant abuses of power. Their admins have forgotten the purpose of defederation. To see it used as a cudgell against a single user they feel distasteful, not to mention not having any evidence to back up their claims, is a gross offense to the Fediverse as a whole.
Understood. This is the full choice of this instance with no hesitation or wavering. I respect that you have the right to make this decision for your instance. Unfortunately, I also respect this.
As you have forged the first link, I will forge the second. Goodbye.
I don't. I have an issue with you because you are making these claims. You're asking me to go to the people you're accusing and asking them to prove a negative, if it is false. Something that you know full well is utterly impossible and does not hold up in any court, law or public opinion.
I am going to ask this for the last time.
Are you willing to provide any evidence at all to back up your claims?
If you are not willing to prove your accusations then your accusations are without merit. It also will have demonstrated that Startrek.website is engaging in hostile administration and weaponizing defederation for unknown reasons. Which is all that any other instance would need to defederate from you.
This is your last chance of handling this in a professional manner.
I'm an admin of another instance and questioning your behavior and wondering if its worthy of defederation from my own instance.
I, and others, are simply asking for your evidence that you used to base your decision off of. Is that the answer you want to go with? Complete disregard and dismissal?
Every comment of yours here has been to dismiss everyone while saying "You're not on the instance so it won't change things for you." You are not addressing the problem and, seemingly, waiting for people to have a problem with it only from that instance. The one that you blocked. So are you sure that "Disregard, dismissal, and refusal to elaborate or communicate" is what you want myself and other admins to take away from this post?
Edit: Well, with several more comments posted (including a dodge attempt at providing evidence by saying its against their rules to shame someone) but nothing in response to this, clearly the answer is yes. That is what the administrators of this website want us to take from this. That they do not need to provide evidence, they do not need to clarify, they do not need to elaborate. Now. Combine that with the numerous reports of direct harassment and abuse by members of their admin team. Add on the fact that your modlog shows no activity from any of your admins for months up until last week when this Tesseract stuff started. Then the user of this instance who has been extremely vocal about everything going on. I, as an admin responsible to my users like you are to yours, have to ask myself. Is this really an instance worth staying federated with?
Admins of our instance are having a discussion about defederation. If we decide to do so, we will inform you and our own instance before actually doing it.
As an admin with the same responsibilities, I find it questionable that you've also decided not to give any proof of your claims. Could you please demonstrate some? Otherwise, we (the admins of lemy.lol) will unfortunately have to defederate from Startrek.website in response. There have been a number of reports of the behavior surrounding the administration of this instance to call into question this specific action. This seemingly made directly after an illegal DDOS attack was perpetuated on dbzer0 is... strange. It's more than enough for us at our instance to drop you as well.
We're not entirely comfortable with admins using their instances as a fiefdom. If you want to defederate, I can understand the decision. It is one that I've had to consider numerous times. But to paint an entire instance (the third largest, from what I'm aware) as allowing content that you're refusing to provide evidence for? It's questionable. This made only further by the fact that Corgana and SysAdmin have been demonstrated by others to be the same user in the past as well as the... quite numerous claims of abuse from the admins of this instance. Hell, I've currently got access to screenshots of the admins of this instance requesting another instance to ban a user simply for reporting on the publicly available modlog on YePowerTrippingBastards.
As far as I'm aware, you also haven't taken any public stance on this up until this point. "Final Straw?" What were the first ones? This post leaves far more questions than it does answers. I'd recommend deleting this now and making either a sensible response worthy of an admin or to just drop this entire situation.
Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.
I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.
Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a 'coordinated harassment campaign', then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn't defederate from us over his perception of a frog.
Wow. A report recieved on this post. Reporters name blanked out but... wow.
Good to know that I was mistaken.
Sir, I have literally no idea who you are. But I've seen various mentions of the fact that you're either an admin or a dev.
Do you genuinely believe this dismissive behavior is going to do you any favors? Because you're making this look worse.
Hi. Admin of Lemy.lol here.
This does not surprise me. When I joined the Lemy.lol team, I was informed that Rimu had pre-emptively defederated from us sometime ago due to our logo. Pepe the frog. His claim was that it was a symbol of alt-right hatred. There is a debate/discussion to be had around that, especially due to the fact the original creator vehemently stands against the bastardization of his creation, but Rimu refused to engage. His mind had been made up. This situation appears to be no different. He is searching for 'proof' to validate his claim of abuse by the administration team of Dbzer0. I suspect this extends from his similarly rabid reaction over the Lemmy.World admin abuse of Anarchist.nexus and its users.
Learning all of this, as well as his added tools to silence people critical of him, I find it both obscenely hypocritical and obscenely suspicious of his behavior here. This accusation appears to be some level of projection, more so than an actual rational conclusion. As we have all learned recently, people who frequently scream one specific conclusion are often guilty of helping come to this conclusion themselves.
Rimu has already been proven to be using a piefed feature to silence dissenting voices.
What else is he doing with Piefed?
Not merely a PTB, but a dangerous one. The developer of Piefed taking these stances deeply shakes all credibility of Piefed as a platform for myself. It appears to be a rebuilding of reddit from the ground up with Spez as its head. It is for this reason that I have fully recommended for Lemy.lol to not have a Piefed instance. Or, at the very least, not a basic piefed instance. We will gladly wait for a fork that has been sanitized.
Lemy.lol has a new administration team. We stand with Dbzer0 against Lemmy.world's flagrant abuses of power. Their admins have forgotten the purpose of defederation. To see it used as a cudgell against a single user they feel distasteful, not to mention not having any evidence to back up their claims, is a gross offense to the Fediverse as a whole.