Sorry my thoughts got lost over multiple messages. I meant to get a similar amount of protein you need to consume more vegan food, especially calorie rich ones, most restaurants that I've seen when they have comparable items the vegan one had way more calories. I'd love to hear more of your experiences with this as someone who's gone through that, do you find it harder to stay in shape?
Also thank you for actually engaging with me on this, the other person was very volatile.
We live in an economy engineered to isolate us and make us work building up these empires for crumbs to be able to survive while slowly selling our souls sway. It's depressing.
It is food, get off your high horse if you plan on convincing anyone to back you. Topics and opinions are more nuanced than you want and people can't easily get boxed.
Yes I'm aware the food industry is one of the least efficient industries out there. No I don't think pure abolition is realistic or useful, as the products that come out of it can't be replaced, you can adjust your diet to get proteins and such from other places, but beans and nuts are going to rack up your calories a ton compared to meat.
And calling someone a useful idiot is bold while you're taking the pressure off of the ai industry which is not producing something useful for people (unlike meat which in spite of the failings of the industry is still helpful*) to say "but what about this other thing?!". We can deal with both, but one of those is definitely worse than the other and it's the one that we have existed without for thousands of years.
Something can be both useful and also destructive. Pretty sure people have done the maths and to approach the levels of efficiency that say meat has you'd be consuming a lot more calories. Similarly actual milk is better than soy milk.
This isn't to diss people that make the choice, but your quality of life will be worse, so yes I count that as those meat products being necessary, in spite of the environmental damage. I think there are better ways to fix that. Diversifying the meat industry, lowering food waste, etc. What seems more interesting at the moment is lab grown meat, since it has all the pros with none of the cons, except cost.
you might want to look up "colonization", the British, Spanish, Portuguese, etc colonized much of Africa, drained it of resources, then that same wealth made its way to the US which was also a British colony after they killed and stole the land from the natives. Colonizers who then min maxed it by going all in on slavery, then when the motherland was asking for too much in taxes from their profits they broke away. The US was built with blood and money.
that feels somewhat disingenuous considering labour is trying to take back privatised services back into public control, they're doing a shitty job at it but they do have British rail and I think there was one other effort as well.
Control I'd imagine, if upstream ever does something they don't want they can stop pulling the change downstream without having to migrate again to another tool internally, so easier to make that jump now ig
Sorry my thoughts got lost over multiple messages. I meant to get a similar amount of protein you need to consume more vegan food, especially calorie rich ones, most restaurants that I've seen when they have comparable items the vegan one had way more calories. I'd love to hear more of your experiences with this as someone who's gone through that, do you find it harder to stay in shape?
Also thank you for actually engaging with me on this, the other person was very volatile.
We live in an economy engineered to isolate us and make us work building up these empires for crumbs to be able to survive while slowly selling our souls sway. It's depressing.
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It is food, get off your high horse if you plan on convincing anyone to back you. Topics and opinions are more nuanced than you want and people can't easily get boxed.
Yes I'm aware the food industry is one of the least efficient industries out there. No I don't think pure abolition is realistic or useful, as the products that come out of it can't be replaced, you can adjust your diet to get proteins and such from other places, but beans and nuts are going to rack up your calories a ton compared to meat.
And calling someone a useful idiot is bold while you're taking the pressure off of the ai industry which is not producing something useful for people (unlike meat which in spite of the failings of the industry is still helpful*) to say "but what about this other thing?!". We can deal with both, but one of those is definitely worse than the other and it's the one that we have existed without for thousands of years.
Something can be both useful and also destructive. Pretty sure people have done the maths and to approach the levels of efficiency that say meat has you'd be consuming a lot more calories. Similarly actual milk is better than soy milk.
This isn't to diss people that make the choice, but your quality of life will be worse, so yes I count that as those meat products being necessary, in spite of the environmental damage. I think there are better ways to fix that. Diversifying the meat industry, lowering food waste, etc. What seems more interesting at the moment is lab grown meat, since it has all the pros with none of the cons, except cost.
Except you need food to eat, you don't need AI.
Is that the pipepipe pipeline?
Bah, more student only infrastructure
that's why you just skip the middleman and run it in your browser instead.
you might want to look up "colonization", the British, Spanish, Portuguese, etc colonized much of Africa, drained it of resources, then that same wealth made its way to the US which was also a British colony after they killed and stole the land from the natives. Colonizers who then min maxed it by going all in on slavery, then when the motherland was asking for too much in taxes from their profits they broke away. The US was built with blood and money.
sorry too many O office apps, I meant onlyoffice, which is the base of the EuroOffice app
great spirit, but this won't break the record the UK government has on rejecting nigh every petition outcome.
Russian ownership of OPENOFFICE is why this Euro fork exists.
edit: meant ONLYOFFICE. too many Os out there
Locking controls away from users is not security.
cockroach honey? 🤢
Huawei maybe? otherwise I don't see how this would be a thing.
that feels somewhat disingenuous considering labour is trying to take back privatised services back into public control, they're doing a shitty job at it but they do have British rail and I think there was one other effort as well.
Control I'd imagine, if upstream ever does something they don't want they can stop pulling the change downstream without having to migrate again to another tool internally, so easier to make that jump now ig
How can one become a tech nerd without tinkering with things though?
Might be a stupid question but why not displayport instead?