so what i've been doing is finding various models through the generations and researching their cpu's and oddly enough, nearly every one i've put in has had subpar ratings or rankings..... idk if that really matters or not
Aha I see! thanks for the info. I think i'm going thinkpad though, just gotta decide which model. they are incredibly cheap! especially for what you get
But I just may not be able to run the newer releases that come out and continue to come out? if the machine is a tad old? is that what I'm getting? because that's what im trying to figure out
See I fear this, being stuck to only kernels up to a certain version. Because don't the older ones lose support and stuff like that? how the heck do you maintain your system if the distro isn't pushing anymore updates and such?
Then why have I had such a terrible experience with my newer Dell Xps 13 9310 experience? user error or proprietary b.s.? because I have been told that the new Dells are going the more propriety route.
I oughtta browse ebay and see if anybody's selling some system76 stuff. I gotta see what to do with my Dell Xps 13 9310 thats stuck in manufacturing mode first. probably sell for parts or idk?
Wow, I truly appreciate this response. So i've been using Linux for a decade and know a "fair" amount, never made it a goal to learn the ins and outs, though I am now. So I hear business laptops make great linux machines. My main question is, most of the computers within my budget that are "known" to be decent linux machines are very old. Are they capable of still keeping up with all the newest and latest versions of distros? or are you stuck on older models just because the nature of the device being older?
So then there's really nothing special you look out for? why have I had such issues with linux issues and my Dell Xps 13 9310? user error or proprietary b.s.?
Don't think I have much experience with AMD, almost always Intel. Are there certain generations that are like cutoff for being too old to be stable, quick, and performant?
So I really only care about the RAM for speed. dont care about ssd size, dont care about fingerprint readers, I just want a solid machine that makes it easy to run linux and also easy to fix; something sturdy. there's nothing "special" i should be noting while shopping? is it just all personal preference with the specs and such?
Im just most concerned about it being linux user friendly and fairly durable, as I tend to mess things up and wipe my drive sorts often lol hey, i'm learning! don't game so don't need Nvidia, check. don't need a fingerprint sensor, check. so what is it that actually makes linux more compatible with some computers but not others? does it boil down to the cpu???
Aha! so im not so stupid after all lol I was pretty much right. so how do you figure which manufacturers or even models are more open source and less proprietary?
haha yes me, no I was wondering about running the latest versions of linux on older machines. are they capable or more limited to older versions just because the age and the older hardware?
This helps alot actually because tbh, I don't know what "works" good together as far as ram and cpu specs
I have no idea how old you can or even should go lol budget aside, it seems every thinkpad is uber affordable, even the newest models. very strange
so what i've been doing is finding various models through the generations and researching their cpu's and oddly enough, nearly every one i've put in has had subpar ratings or rankings..... idk if that really matters or not
Aha I see! thanks for the info. I think i'm going thinkpad though, just gotta decide which model. they are incredibly cheap! especially for what you get
wait a sec, kinda contradicting here. you said to avoid weird cheap brands but then you told me to buy weird cheap brands.... lol sorry im confused
But I just may not be able to run the newer releases that come out and continue to come out? if the machine is a tad old? is that what I'm getting? because that's what im trying to figure out
Business or consumer? I've heard much better things about business class laptops for whatever reason
See I fear this, being stuck to only kernels up to a certain version. Because don't the older ones lose support and stuff like that? how the heck do you maintain your system if the distro isn't pushing anymore updates and such?
Then why have I had such a terrible experience with my newer Dell Xps 13 9310 experience? user error or proprietary b.s.? because I have been told that the new Dells are going the more propriety route.
I oughtta browse ebay and see if anybody's selling some system76 stuff. I gotta see what to do with my Dell Xps 13 9310 thats stuck in manufacturing mode first. probably sell for parts or idk?
Wow, I truly appreciate this response. So i've been using Linux for a decade and know a "fair" amount, never made it a goal to learn the ins and outs, though I am now. So I hear business laptops make great linux machines. My main question is, most of the computers within my budget that are "known" to be decent linux machines are very old. Are they capable of still keeping up with all the newest and latest versions of distros? or are you stuck on older models just because the nature of the device being older?
So then there's really nothing special you look out for? why have I had such issues with linux issues and my Dell Xps 13 9310? user error or proprietary b.s.?
Don't think I have much experience with AMD, almost always Intel. Are there certain generations that are like cutoff for being too old to be stable, quick, and performant?
So I really only care about the RAM for speed. dont care about ssd size, dont care about fingerprint readers, I just want a solid machine that makes it easy to run linux and also easy to fix; something sturdy. there's nothing "special" i should be noting while shopping? is it just all personal preference with the specs and such?
Im just most concerned about it being linux user friendly and fairly durable, as I tend to mess things up and wipe my drive sorts often lol hey, i'm learning! don't game so don't need Nvidia, check. don't need a fingerprint sensor, check. so what is it that actually makes linux more compatible with some computers but not others? does it boil down to the cpu???
Yup, N series
Aha! so im not so stupid after all lol I was pretty much right. so how do you figure which manufacturers or even models are more open source and less proprietary?
oh yeaaa, bloatware basically. also go for the minimal installs ;)
haha yes me, no I was wondering about running the latest versions of linux on older machines. are they capable or more limited to older versions just because the age and the older hardware?
But running an older kernel, wouldn't you get an older "experience", perhaps less features, etc.?