I have written right at the beginning, why not using extensions removes essential capabilities out, that Firefox does not support natively, unlike Brave, or even Cromite and Vanadium to an extent.
But uBlock Origin is more thorough than Brave Shields.
And still, you can disable mv3 extension support in the about:config (why ever you would want that) and surely also disable extension support entirely.
Ironfox is the only fully open source, blobfree and security hardened Firefox build on Android. The simple reason why I repeat it. Official Firefox always contained blobs and was not privacy friendly, and unlike Desktop Firefox, you cannot use policies, autoconfig and user.js to harden it without building it yourself.
Other projects like IceRaven or Waterfox have a ton of issues. It is the browser you want to use if you actually want a powerful, private browser.
"Minimalist browsers" is a hardly defined term. Minimalist could mean it just loads anything but strips out features. Or it could mean a tool that makes the bloated web usable.
It is not Firefox Android that is the issue to solve (once it is hardened and deblobbed), but the horrendous state of the web.
You misunderstood me. Focus doesnt have addon support. And as a separate browser it very likely has a unique fingerprint.
You can set #Ironfox to use private browsing always. I suppose that is the appeal with FF Focus and the result is a better browser. And Ironfox has support for FF Sync and has extensive privacy and security improvements, unlike the bit that may have been addes to Focus.
Firefox Android in general has no way of selectively keeping cookies (logins vs tracking) AT ALL. You need #CookieAutoDelete for that.
It also has no content blocker, unlike Brave. You need #uBlockOrigin for that (and no, DNS-based filtering is not good. Little user control, little granularity and badness enumeration)
So it isnt really a privacy friendly browser at all.
Additionally, Focus is stripped down even more, has probably a unique fingerprint etc. And Mozilla includes blobs and nobody cares to release a blobfree version.
It is slower. Of course I know where they are, but it takes an extra click, the drawer has animations (doesnt respect the system disabling them), and not all extensions are shown and the order cannot be changed.
Amazing! I also tried it on windows, with all the official vendor malware installed, and the fan reported speed 0 and ran on max too!
So I am kinda ruling out Linux issues, and need to go deeper.
I upgraded the firmware of the GPU already, no change.
The PC is rather old, 7th Gen i7, officially doesn't support the GPU. The BIOS is pretty outdated too.
Might it be that?
I also looked at the 2 fan cables, they seem fine but I will see what happens if I plug them out and in again, or plug the secondary one out first.
Previous owner said the cards ran silent, and the case is very closed so I doubt something moved in shipping
I already run the nvtopPackages.intel and it displays more than sensors I think. The VRAM temperature fix sounds fun but I think there is no need right now. I should learn how to build "derivations" which is how you apply patches declaratively afaik.
Well, Asahi development was not random dart throwing. They used some VM that can be loaded in an early boot stage, which apple then removed on later devices, making m4 way harder to support.
On Android, a locked bootloader means you cannot change the core operating system. It has nothing to do with how documented or standards compliant the rest of the system is.
The custom list can be used for your own wifi though, and for a more extreme blocklist (if you feel that the CNI is not broad enough, but this should be an intermediary step)
Please! That was hard to open, the lemmy link is from your instance I guess, so it didnt load in #Jerboa
#Lemmy is nice (lol I just want a #Reddit that doesnt suck) but the functionality... links not loading, always weird share links to your own instance... it is annoying
@NewNewAugustEast
I have written right at the beginning, why not using extensions removes essential capabilities out, that Firefox does not support natively, unlike Brave, or even Cromite and Vanadium to an extent.
But uBlock Origin is more thorough than Brave Shields.
And still, you can disable mv3 extension support in the about:config (why ever you would want that) and surely also disable extension support entirely.
Ironfox is the only fully open source, blobfree and security hardened Firefox build on Android. The simple reason why I repeat it. Official Firefox always contained blobs and was not privacy friendly, and unlike Desktop Firefox, you cannot use policies, autoconfig and user.js to harden it without building it yourself.
Other projects like IceRaven or Waterfox have a ton of issues. It is the browser you want to use if you actually want a powerful, private browser.
"Minimalist browsers" is a hardly defined term. Minimalist could mean it just loads anything but strips out features. Or it could mean a tool that makes the bloated web usable.
It is not Firefox Android that is the issue to solve (once it is hardened and deblobbed), but the horrendous state of the web.
But I think we are talking past each other.
@NewNewAugustEast
You can just... not install addons... or only install trusted ones, from a trusted store, like uBlock Origin.
"It has a fingerprint" makes no sense. Please look up what that even means. Everything has a fingerprint.
Focus is just Firefox Android in worse with a minimalist UI and always private-browsing mode. You can literally do this in Ironfox, and much more.
@NewNewAugustEast
You misunderstood me. Focus doesnt have addon support. And as a separate browser it very likely has a unique fingerprint.
You can set #Ironfox to use private browsing always. I suppose that is the appeal with FF Focus and the result is a better browser. And Ironfox has support for FF Sync and has extensive privacy and security improvements, unlike the bit that may have been addes to Focus.
@NewNewAugustEast
Firefox Android in general has no way of selectively keeping cookies (logins vs tracking) AT ALL. You need #CookieAutoDelete for that.
It also has no content blocker, unlike Brave. You need #uBlockOrigin for that (and no, DNS-based filtering is not good. Little user control, little granularity and badness enumeration)
So it isnt really a privacy friendly browser at all.
Additionally, Focus is stripped down even more, has probably a unique fingerprint etc. And Mozilla includes blobs and nobody cares to release a blobfree version.
For privacy and usability, use #Ironfox.
Hey, @celenity is even here!
Ironfox asks if you want to install uBlockOrigin in the setup screen (which is reall neat btw)
@NewNewAugustEast
Focus is vastly inferior and without extension support? Also no fully FOSS version available
@lecroix74
@firefoxnightly @firefox@lemmy.world @firefoxwebdevs @firefox@fedia.io
It is slower. Of course I know where they are, but it takes an extra click, the drawer has animations (doesnt respect the system disabling them), and not all extensions are shown and the order cannot be changed.
@pizza_the_hutt
The idea is to create a bunch of separate ones. The whole database is huge, 144TB exists on this archive alone
https://myrient.org/
@turkalino
Absolutely, do that for the ones you like! This is also more low level for people to guide them through the process
@SteveTech
Cool! No shipping was fine, in 2 boxes tightly packed. Yes, BIOS really shouldnt affect the fans.
I will look again if I can find anything in there
@SteveTech
Amazing! I also tried it on windows, with all the official vendor malware installed, and the fan reported speed 0 and ran on max too!
So I am kinda ruling out Linux issues, and need to go deeper.
I upgraded the firmware of the GPU already, no change.
The PC is rather old, 7th Gen i7, officially doesn't support the GPU. The BIOS is pretty outdated too.
Might it be that?
I also looked at the 2 fan cables, they seem fine but I will see what happens if I plug them out and in again, or plug the secondary one out first.
Previous owner said the cards ran silent, and the case is very closed so I doubt something moved in shipping
I already run the nvtopPackages.intel and it displays more than sensors I think. The VRAM temperature fix sounds fun but I think there is no need right now. I should learn how to build "derivations" which is how you apply patches declaratively afaik.
@hddsx
Fedi thing outside of lemmy and I never got crossposting on Lemmy to work
@sga
Well, Asahi development was not random dart throwing. They used some VM that can be loaded in an early boot stage, which apple then removed on later devices, making m4 way harder to support.
On Android, a locked bootloader means you cannot change the core operating system. It has nothing to do with how documented or standards compliant the rest of the system is.
@Kornblumenratte
They do that on purpose
@Kornblumenratte
No.
@MXC48
I think by now the CNI is excluded automatically.
The custom list can be used for your own wifi though, and for a more extreme blocklist (if you feel that the CNI is not broad enough, but this should be an intermediary step)
@schnurrito
Oooh, Federation XD
Yeah the KDE Lemmy account "reposted" your post. No idea how that works
@schnurrito
https://blogs.kde.org/2025/07/08/amarok-3.3-far-above-the-clouds-released/
Please! That was hard to open, the lemmy link is from your instance I guess, so it didnt load in #Jerboa
#Lemmy is nice (lol I just want a #Reddit that doesnt suck) but the functionality... links not loading, always weird share links to your own instance... it is annoying
@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social great! Thanks a lot :)
@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social interesting! We have a Private Space in user profiles now?