Gish galloping is more than just lying, it's generating falsehoods faster than they can be refuted, which entails responding to refutations by changing the subject. Like you just did. Again.
New rule: Don't argue with antisemites. Just block them.
The actual issue is whether, contrary to Iran's slur, Israel is a legitimate nation with a legal right to exist. It is and does, as it was created by the highest international authority.
Cherry-picking historical partitions (thus avoiding India/Pakistan) is a dishonest change of topic.
Just like nobody cares that the Palestinians controlled this territory before they lost it. All that matters is who has it now.
The UN decided to partition Mandatory Palestine, with part of it forming Israel and the other forming an independent Palestine. However, the Palestinians rejected this, went to war, and lost.
When you go to war and lose, it's not your land anymore.
Yeah, and the Jews were there before that. Welcome to history, where the people owning a land can change.
Fact is, Israel was formed on top of land owned by the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinians. Britain won it as spoils of war, just like the Palestinians did long ago. Then the Palestinians went to war and lost again. It's just not their land anymore.
If war is a legitimate way to gain land, then Israel legitimately exists and it legitimately owns Palestine.
Iran and its pawns refuse to call Israel "Israel", using "Zionist state" as a slur. It would be like the USSR saying America doesn't exist and only calling it the "capitalist state".
The Palestinian claim to the area is rooted in their own colonialism; learn some history.
No, that's a lie. Iran and its "Axis of Resistance" reject the existence of Israel, so they refuse to use its name, instead calling it the "Zionist state" as a slur.
Do not lie to me, and do not make excuses for antisemitism.
Hamas rejects the existence of Israel, refusing even to call it by its name, instead slurring it as the "Zionist state", just like its Iranian backers do. It manifests this rejection through terrorism.
Fuck Bibi, but anyone is his seat is going to react to the 10/7 massacre with war. This is what Hamas wanted. They don't get to complain about getting what they wanted.
They killed their own people with this provocation.
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He did not have a mandate: he had a Congress that just barely supported him.
Stop blaming D's for R's. Stop it!
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@Maggoty
Gish galloping is more than just lying, it's generating falsehoods faster than they can be refuted, which entails responding to refutations by changing the subject. Like you just did. Again.
New rule: Don't argue with antisemites. Just block them.
@Maggoty
The problem with arguments based on pretending to be stupid is that people are likely to believe you're really that stupid and just write you off.
Go back to my example of "capitalist state" and you'll see that your stupid nonsense argument was pre-refuted.
@Maggoty
You're Gish galloping.
The actual issue is whether, contrary to Iran's slur, Israel is a legitimate nation with a legal right to exist. It is and does, as it was created by the highest international authority.
Cherry-picking historical partitions (thus avoiding India/Pakistan) is a dishonest change of topic.
@Maggoty
BS. If they were, you would have been able to.
@Maggoty
Are you confused? WWII was in the 1900's, not the 1700's.
And, to remind you, the UN partitioned Mandatory Palestine. Israel accepted this, the Palestinians went to war and lost. Sucks to be them.
@Maggoty
Just like nobody cares that the Palestinians controlled this territory before they lost it. All that matters is who has it now.
The UN decided to partition Mandatory Palestine, with part of it forming Israel and the other forming an independent Palestine. However, the Palestinians rejected this, went to war, and lost.
When you go to war and lose, it's not your land anymore.
@DropBear @Maggoty
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@Maggoty
Iran denies the legitimacy of Israel. They say it doesn't have any right to exist and their goal is to make it cease to exist, through genocide.
That is why, once again, refusing to call Israel "Israel" and instead calling it the "Zionist state" is a slur and a genocidal threat.
Repeatedly ignoring irrefutable facts is bullshit. Stop bullshitting.
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@Maggoty
Yeah, and the Jews were there before that. Welcome to history, where the people owning a land can change.
Fact is, Israel was formed on top of land owned by the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinians. Britain won it as spoils of war, just like the Palestinians did long ago. Then the Palestinians went to war and lost again. It's just not their land anymore.
If war is a legitimate way to gain land, then Israel legitimately exists and it legitimately owns Palestine.
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@Maggoty
This is a lie.
Iran and its pawns refuse to call Israel "Israel", using "Zionist state" as a slur. It would be like the USSR saying America doesn't exist and only calling it the "capitalist state".
The Palestinian claim to the area is rooted in their own colonialism; learn some history.
@Maggoty
No, that's a lie. Iran and its "Axis of Resistance" reject the existence of Israel, so they refuse to use its name, instead calling it the "Zionist state" as a slur.
Do not lie to me, and do not make excuses for antisemitism.
@Maggoty
Hamas rejects the existence of Israel, refusing even to call it by its name, instead slurring it as the "Zionist state", just like its Iranian backers do. It manifests this rejection through terrorism.
Fuck Bibi, but anyone is his seat is going to react to the 10/7 massacre with war. This is what Hamas wanted. They don't get to complain about getting what they wanted.
They killed their own people with this provocation.
@Maggoty
Did you miss the part about surrendering? Surrendering stops the war.
@PanArab
Maybe Hamas shouldn't have massacred Israelis.
Maybe it should release the remaining hostages and surrender.
That would end the war they started.
@maegul @politics
If the Dems had control of Congress, then SCOTUS would have ruled differently.