Yeah I'm not really starkly in favour of a removal or anything, just pitching that as my opinion :)
That said, I think it's super possible to provide good service to people without honorifics! Making people feel respected is more than just saying a specific word a bunch of times, like maybe you're getting a positive result out of customers just because saying those honorifics put you into the frame of mind of being nice to them and taking them seriously.
IMO it's entirely possible to talk super fancy with a dozen "sir"s or whatever and be intensely rude (look up British MPs insulting each other as a potential example). Conversely I think it's possible to be extremely hospitable with rustic, informal language. Singular particles are not really the end of language, it's the greater action and meaning that matter way more.
While I don't think there is an obvious drop-in replacement yet, I'm sure some consensus will eventually happen (as has been forming for the use of "Mx./Mixes" for the Mr/Ms dichotomy).
Honestly though? I think honorifics are not a strictly necessary part of language. Like day-to-day I usually do...
For getting the attention of a person you don't know the name of, consider "excuse me" or "pardon" in formal/service contexts and "hey!" or "hello!" in more informal ones
For speaking to someone authoritatively (i.e. "Ma'am, you are now charged with..." or "Sir, you will have to leave the Wendy's") you can just omit the honorific entirely and replace it with some other polite particle (like "Sorry," or "I'm afraid that...")
For speaking to someone who has authority over you ("Sir, with all due respect...") you could address them by the title that confers that authority, or simply omit any honorifics and address them in a more peer-to-peer fashion.
Ultimately honorifics fill a more antiquated role of recognizing and placing yourself in a hierarchy, either below or above the other person, and maybe that's not a good thing. For example, using them often is a lot of the (perhaps unnecessary) emotional labour of service jobs. So if we're altering our language then perhaps just shifting away from them is the correct way forward. That's just my opinion though :)
One thing I love about this specific allegory is how it conveys a hunch held in the back of my mind (and probably other transfem people) that masculinity is sort of a defective category for anybody; being an unwavering war machine without thought is not anything to aspire towards, so why even measure any bot by their capacity for violence?
It's unfortunate that there's a kernel of truth in both! Obviously red guy is bad and if you're thinking in the medium-term of the next five years (the context of the election) then it really is that simple.
I do want to emphasize though that there is a lot that has to be done outside the ballot box. Even if you just want status quo, a Harris government would need to be badgered heavily to actually pass the sort of legislation needed to mitigate the imminent threat of climate change (in addition to most other policy changes you'd want or need).
Climate Man isn't going to swoop down from the sky and save the world. Normal people need to see politics as a proactive, regular part of adulting. If you're planning on voting this year, consider also having the goal of (if able) attending a protest or donating to political organizations you agree with this (or next) year! Lets make government suck less c:
(Being pedantic here) A couple US states technically use proportional representation in the apportionment of electors in a presidential election (Nebraska and Maine), although it's of course dubious if an elector actually counts as a representative, given how ephemeral they are.
OKAY I didn't read through much of it so I wasn't sure if either of those were ever addressed!
It's almost unreliable narration the way Liz is presented, I'm sure that was super tough for her but what's shown in comic is ultimately just the positive stuff. Maybe that's for tone reasons but, yeah, definitely leaves an incomplete picture, made more incomplete by her not posting for long periods 😅
Same! The early transition comics are crazy, she tells her wife and then they have a second kid together!
(The trans stuff starts about here btw)
Honestly it's artistically remarkable to see a woman articulate the progression of her transition in this like, 00s-era Penny-Arcade webcomic art style.
Very excited for this!! MaM was a lot of what sold me on Aabria as my favourite actual play GM <3 Just a really good deconstruction of the "secret wizard school" trope.
I can play custodian if you need it. It'd be super lame to see this community get goofed on by spam or bigoted stuff, after managing to regrow so fast.
I love that we have the fidelity here to implement things like "downvotes are at 0.2x power" and stuff like that! That sounds cool, should totally try that out and see how it ends up feeling. I think people would ultimately be OK with a near-zero-power downvote, if that ends up negatively affecting conversations too much.
There's a lot of fashion options you can try out to draw less attention to your shoulders, if you want. Thin, open jackets can be a good compromise in warm-to-hot weather, for example.
Yeah I'm not really starkly in favour of a removal or anything, just pitching that as my opinion :)
That said, I think it's super possible to provide good service to people without honorifics! Making people feel respected is more than just saying a specific word a bunch of times, like maybe you're getting a positive result out of customers just because saying those honorifics put you into the frame of mind of being nice to them and taking them seriously.
IMO it's entirely possible to talk super fancy with a dozen "sir"s or whatever and be intensely rude (look up British MPs insulting each other as a potential example). Conversely I think it's possible to be extremely hospitable with rustic, informal language. Singular particles are not really the end of language, it's the greater action and meaning that matter way more.
While I don't think there is an obvious drop-in replacement yet, I'm sure some consensus will eventually happen (as has been forming for the use of "Mx./Mixes" for the Mr/Ms dichotomy).
Honestly though? I think honorifics are not a strictly necessary part of language. Like day-to-day I usually do...
Ultimately honorifics fill a more antiquated role of recognizing and placing yourself in a hierarchy, either below or above the other person, and maybe that's not a good thing. For example, using them often is a lot of the (perhaps unnecessary) emotional labour of service jobs. So if we're altering our language then perhaps just shifting away from them is the correct way forward. That's just my opinion though :)
One thing I love about this specific allegory is how it conveys a hunch held in the back of my mind (and probably other transfem people) that masculinity is sort of a defective category for anybody; being an unwavering war machine without thought is not anything to aspire towards, so why even measure any bot by their capacity for violence?
Friends with (health) benefits
That's really the heart of it yeah. I'm expecting the next election to be different once Extremely Insecure Guy isn't an option.
Are there any other undocumented features of my abdominal cavity that I should be aware of
It's unfortunate that there's a kernel of truth in both! Obviously red guy is bad and if you're thinking in the medium-term of the next five years (the context of the election) then it really is that simple.
I do want to emphasize though that there is a lot that has to be done outside the ballot box. Even if you just want status quo, a Harris government would need to be badgered heavily to actually pass the sort of legislation needed to mitigate the imminent threat of climate change (in addition to most other policy changes you'd want or need).
Climate Man isn't going to swoop down from the sky and save the world. Normal people need to see politics as a proactive, regular part of adulting. If you're planning on voting this year, consider also having the goal of (if able) attending a protest or donating to political organizations you agree with this (or next) year! Lets make government suck less c:
(Being pedantic here) A couple US states technically use proportional representation in the apportionment of electors in a presidential election (Nebraska and Maine), although it's of course dubious if an elector actually counts as a representative, given how ephemeral they are.
OKAY I didn't read through much of it so I wasn't sure if either of those were ever addressed!
It's almost unreliable narration the way Liz is presented, I'm sure that was super tough for her but what's shown in comic is ultimately just the positive stuff. Maybe that's for tone reasons but, yeah, definitely leaves an incomplete picture, made more incomplete by her not posting for long periods 😅
Same! The early transition comics are crazy, she tells her wife and then they have a second kid together! (The trans stuff starts about here btw)
Honestly it's artistically remarkable to see a woman articulate the progression of her transition in this like, 00s-era Penny-Arcade webcomic art style.
I love when a new season starts and we get to see the crazy shit the art department's done
Very excited for this!! MaM was a lot of what sold me on Aabria as my favourite actual play GM <3 Just a really good deconstruction of the "secret wizard school" trope.
I guess you can just take turns doing this depending on who's in heels
so when are the stickers with this shörk coming out ;)
🤩 so many cool and esteemed deeds are commemorated there 💖💖
I can play custodian if you need it. It'd be super lame to see this community get goofed on by spam or bigoted stuff, after managing to regrow so fast.
I love that we have the fidelity here to implement things like "downvotes are at 0.2x power" and stuff like that! That sounds cool, should totally try that out and see how it ends up feeling. I think people would ultimately be OK with a near-zero-power downvote, if that ends up negatively affecting conversations too much.
so disappointing when waste the perfect introduction to a gay porno on things like this
oh Jesus Christ
There's a lot of fashion options you can try out to draw less attention to your shoulders, if you want. Thin, open jackets can be a good compromise in warm-to-hot weather, for example.