@usernamefactory@startrek I don't know if I agree with that premise. I've run into any number of people who became Trek fans in general by starting with Kelvin.
That said, I don't know that breaking the movies into *more* timelines is a great idea.
And I personally would be skeptical that anything from the proposed movies would ever turn into a TV series. They are really operating in separate spaces right now. And P+ is shedding series faster than they're adding them.
@ValueSubtracted I think my ramblings up there are my process of arriving where you already are.
"Make Kelvin 4" is at least a plan, and there's an audience that would like more. Would I watch it, sure. Would I care if it never gets made...not really.
But when they start throwing these other movie ideas around, I don't see a purpose. And people will say what they will about Kurtzman's tenure as TV Trek overlord, but at least everything there had a purpose (whether one agrees with it or not).
@StillPaisleyCat I can't decide how to feel about it. I don't have much interest in a full-blown reboot. Nor am I much interested in seeing how this film might crap all over ENT. I guess we'll see. Or maybe we won't, considering Paramount's track record of late with getting Trek films off the ground. @startrek
"It is said to involve the creation of the Starfleet and humankind’s first contact with alien life."
If that's really what it is, for all I care just establish that Kelvin is an entire alternative universe and not an alternate timeline instead of annoying me by seeing how they frak around with the canon Star Trek: Enterprise already established.
@reddig33@startrek Well we know Tawny Newsome is on the writing staff of the "Starfleet Academy" series, so she's still lurking at least behind the scenes. 🙂
@ValueSubtracted@startrek Yeah, just general talk of spacing out future projects. But since it's the only potential future project we know of (I think?) it's a straw to grab. 😂
Personally I wouldn't be shocked if the idea dies because people move on to other projects and then if/when Paramount decided to do it you suddenly can't get the band back together on the timeline they want.
Also, as someone noted in a Discord chat about it, "decades before" only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09, otherwise too far back and you're making a Prime Timeline movie. So that'll be interesting to see what they plan.
@samus12345@startrek I didn't see it either until the Memory Alpha entry for the episode listed her as there.
I wonder if it was a case where they didn't have the original actress and/or didn't really have any lines for her. So why put her up front and center to say nothing and then fans complain that everyone else in Nova Squadron was back and talking and she wasn't.
@usernamefactory @startrek I don't know if I agree with that premise. I've run into any number of people who became Trek fans in general by starting with Kelvin.
That said, I don't know that breaking the movies into *more* timelines is a great idea.
And I personally would be skeptical that anything from the proposed movies would ever turn into a TV series. They are really operating in separate spaces right now. And P+ is shedding series faster than they're adding them.
@roofuskit That's a rather reductive statement that basically ignores the article quote that I'm reacting to. So thanks for that.
@ValueSubtracted I think my ramblings up there are my process of arriving where you already are.
"Make Kelvin 4" is at least a plan, and there's an audience that would like more. Would I watch it, sure. Would I care if it never gets made...not really.
But when they start throwing these other movie ideas around, I don't see a purpose. And people will say what they will about Kurtzman's tenure as TV Trek overlord, but at least everything there had a purpose (whether one agrees with it or not).
@ValueSubtracted I keep thinking about this and I'm not sure where I land. I feel like we're near "progress for progress' sake".
First we had movies that sequeled our TV shows. No one objected unless a given movie was bad.
Then post-Berman pre-streaming we did movies because no one had appetite to make new TV Trek. Fine.
Now in the streaming era of multiple series, what purpose do disconnected-from-TV cinematic movies serve? Do they need to exist besides 💰?
I don't know what the answer is.
@StillPaisleyCat I can't decide how to feel about it. I don't have much interest in a full-blown reboot. Nor am I much interested in seeing how this film might crap all over ENT. I guess we'll see. Or maybe we won't, considering Paramount's track record of late with getting Trek films off the ground. @startrek
"It is said to involve the creation of the Starfleet and humankind’s first contact with alien life."
If that's really what it is, for all I care just establish that Kelvin is an entire alternative universe and not an alternate timeline instead of annoying me by seeing how they frak around with the canon Star Trek: Enterprise already established.
#StarTrek #StarTrekEnterprise @startrek
Or they're just throwing the "Kelvin had a specific point of divergence" concept out.
#StarTrek @startrek
@imnapr @startrek Too much greatness for their bandwidth. 😆
@reddig33 @startrek Well we know Tawny Newsome is on the writing staff of the "Starfleet Academy" series, so she's still lurking at least behind the scenes. 🙂
@Reverendender @startrek "I'll give it a shot" is basically where I am going into any new Trek project. We'll see what it is.
@ValueSubtracted @startrek Yeah, just general talk of spacing out future projects. But since it's the only potential future project we know of (I think?) it's a straw to grab. 😂
Personally I wouldn't be shocked if the idea dies because people move on to other projects and then if/when Paramount decided to do it you suddenly can't get the band back together on the timeline they want.
@UESPA_Sputnik I can't get the TrekCentral site to load at the moment, but this announcement was made two months ago.
@crazyminner @startrek This doesn't have anything to do with SNW. Season 3 of SNW started filming a few weeks ago.
@startrek interesting followup note https://trekmovie.com/2024/01/10/new-star-trek-movie-director-is-a-fan-and-directed-the-black-mirror-trek-episode-uss-callister/
@ValueSubtracted @startrek Well like we said, all news about a Star Trek film comes with lots of salt onboard 😂
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Basically where I'm also at.
Also, as someone noted in a Discord chat about it, "decades before" only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09, otherwise too far back and you're making a Prime Timeline movie. So that'll be interesting to see what they plan.
@CindyLouWho2 @startrek Ugh how did I miss that? I've edited it in.
@samus12345 @startrek I didn't see it either until the Memory Alpha entry for the episode listed her as there.
I wonder if it was a case where they didn't have the original actress and/or didn't really have any lines for her. So why put her up front and center to say nothing and then fans complain that everyone else in Nova Squadron was back and talking and she wasn't.
I have no real idea, just speculating.