that's the idea i tried to convey with the image, thanks
And @bnn1@thelemmy.club : Is this an AI picture? Can I get the prompt and which model has been used? Kinda like the style.
yes it's AI generated - chatgpt. I prompted chatgpt for "something more hand-drawing'ish" and "something simpler and less detailed" 😅 you can see full 'production cycle' here: https://chatgpt.com/share/6ab77a71-1dc8-83ed-b66b-dad0b606de45 sorry it's probably not what can help to reproduce the style.
i'll still reply. first of all, i want to apologize if my response seemed aggressive or insulting to you. that was not my intention. my communication style might feel rough at edgs but i carry no ill intent. i'm just trying to understand your position, and am trying to convey my position. like a normal exchange of opinions you know? you don't have to get all defensive and insult me to prove your point.
you obviously didn’t read my response or didn’t comprehend:
i did read your response in fulll, in fact many times over.
your slopcode output has grown enormously! so much better thany the copypasta from stack, whoop-de-fuckin-doo.
you make baseless assumptions and belittle my experience and expertise based on.. based on what exactly? me using ai? that's not cool you know.
The AI did not “cure cancer” by itself.
i never said it did. i said, quote “this dude used ai to create a cancer vaccine for his dying dog".
re: the dog thing - FROM THE FUCKING ARTICLE, YOU TOOLBAG: Promising, but not a cure - It should be noted that this is a single dog, not a controlled study, and mast cell tumours can behave unpredictably. We cannot be sure how much of Rosie’s improvement is due to the vaccine, how long it will last, or whether the same approach would help other dogs, let alone humans.
you're completely dismissing the rest of the article: tumors shrunk, condition improved, energy levels improved, dog got much better. And you know what else can be described as "We cannot be sure how much of Rosie’s improvement is due to the vaccine, how long it will last"? every fucking existing cancer treatment. No chemo is a guarantee you'll defeat cancer, or that it will never come back.
you’re the one who brought the subject of plumbing up, as if the US is shitting too much or our infrastructure should be reimagined to make shitting more efficient. Instead I fucking schooled you on why plumbing is nice and the AI use is ridiculous, and you simply ignore the hard parts lol.
i didn't ignore anything though? i validated your part that plumbing is essential but i objected your stance that "ai is useless". and i brought US toilets up just to show how little water datacenters consume compared to 'regular' stuff like flushing a toilet. and okay my flushing toilets and agriculture examples were kinda bad. you can't just remove canalization or farms without killing everyone. but there are things we waste water on more.. wastefully? sorry for tautology.
my goal was to convey that the whole "SO MUCH WATER CONSUMPTION!!!" hysteria is only really relevant in draught-prone areas. and btw most other claims like "ai driving climate crisis" or the "heat dome" from some comment in this post are mostly pseudoscience.
if you really want to optimize water usage you should start with lawns, not ai.
Dude, you’re a cheerleader for LLMs. For fucks sake, go rent a personality, please, find a friend that you don’t have to calculate the token cost for, because I’m not it.
i'm a cheerleader for technology in general. techno optimist you could say. AI is only part of it.
I’m anti-ai because it’s LLM garbage built on theft. You’re not bothered by the theft, illustrating how weak of character you and your LLM slurpin homies are.
built on theft. You’re not bothered by the theft
what exactly did LLMs, or companies that create them, steal from you? what meaningful contribution of knowledge did you make to this world that was worth "stealing" by LLMs?
1.5 TRILLION IN THE HOLE, FOR WHAT?
in the US. China for example spends around $120B. as for "FOR WHAT?" i already answered that.
i kinda dislike that you ignored the one part of my response that i'm most interested in:
i wanna get a bit personal - why are you doing this? “stop ai” isn’t a goal. what do you want to achieve by stopping ai? like what improvements in your day-to-day life do you see if it’s stopped? your relationships? work? do these improvements justify personal tragedies of millions of people who depend on ai?
And I want to make an accent on "justifiable" because you say a lot about ai expenses being unjustified. You want ai stopped. How do you justify disruption of millions of lives and businesses that rely heavily on ai?
are you really telling me you shit out in a hole in the ground?
no but if water was my concern i might have done just that.
see, plumbing has a genuine utility and has probably saved more lives than you can imagine.
no shit.
but AI also has a genuine utility. and i'm not talking specialized algorithms that figure out protein folding or detect cancer. i mean regular chatbots.
personally i benefit enormously from it. i coded and shipped more in the past year than in last 10 years. at work i write more code in a day than i used to in a week. it helped me diagnose an autoimmune disease that require treatment that shitty doctors in my backwater country failed to do. it explains things i don't understand. it helps me overcome my prejudice and help me be a better person. it provides me a second opinion when i need it. -- that's just a short list of shit ai helps me with. and i'm not using even 10% of it. there's text-to-speach, there's speach-to-text, there's image generation, video generation, audio generation -- these have enourmous amount of use cases, and helps enormous amount of people. think an indie dev that can solo an entire game in weeks/months that was previously simply impossible. think producers that can ship entire series for pennies. think all those dreamers that dreamed but lacked ability to actually produce.
honestly i don't understand how you don't see value in ai.
that data centers are nearing the consumption of 1/4th
that's just 1% or even less of total US water consumption. agriculture sucks up 30% if i'm not mistaken. but okay agriculture is food. we really need food. but watering lawns. do we need our lawns green and pretty that bad to waste 1.5 trillion gallons of water on it? and that's wasted, not total consumed. total consumed - multiply by 2.
driving up prices for cpu, gpu, ram, memory based storage, disc based storage
i can agree with that.
while it walks people through committing mass murder AND undressing CHILDREN
usually someone asking for a summary of a fucking email
do you know how useful that is? i mean maybe not for you, but for someone who have to handle hundreds of mails daily? but really that's one real narrow real silly use case. more serious use cases: improved ai discovering new math, physics, chemistry, ai automating research - including usage of alphafold and all other scientific tools - to discover new drugs, new materials; ai optimizing business processes. and that's not some 'high-on-hope' shit like it was just 2 years ago. it's real. it's happening right fucking now.
THINK FOR A MOMENT: HOW IS ALL THE WATER THAT AI IS ALREADY FUCKING USING JUSTIFYING ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS?
think for a moment: why are you wasting your time and effort and mental energy to fight technology? like what for? what do you want to achieve? i mean i understand what you want to achieve. but is it a realistic outcome? like how do you see this fight turning out for you? like tomorrow doland trump addresses the nation: "TODAY I'M STOPPING AI. NO MORE AI." and xi goes like "特朗普停止了人工智能。我们也必须停止。", and all businesses that are ears dip in ai shit all go like "yeah we ain't need no ai, let's undo all our automation workflows and rehire all those people we deleted". you do you of course but i really, really hate wasting my effort on something that is very unlikely to happen.
i wanna get a bit personal - why are you doing this? "stop ai" isn't a goal. what do you want to achieve by stopping ai? like what improvements in your day-to-day life do you see if it's stopped? your relationships? work? do these improvements justify personal tragedies of millions of people who depend on ai?
and last question: have you actually used ai enough to confidently say it's useless?
fuck that was a long write. and will be a long read. hope you'll read it 😅
I think humor should still be truthful, because plenty of people will believe whatever they read online and then repeat it as fact.
Honestly, this could even be a Chinese campaign to make Americans stupider. They’d benefit from that.
The previous paragraph is a completely made-up misinformation - exactly the kind of thing people can easily believe and spread. Which helps nobody. Except China.
The 2N3904 isn’t “minimum requirements for Linux” - it’s one bipolar transistor, and a Linux-capable computer still needs a CPU made from vastly more transistors, plus RAM, storage, clocking, buses, and supporting hardware. Not funny.
Claude in VS Code is an agent/coding harness. “Plan” mode helps the agent plan how to perform a task before it edits code.
Fukurama is a general-purpose chat frontend. The problem I’m solving is what happens during a long conversation: you branch into clarifications/tangents, useful information gets scattered across many messages, and the main thread becomes hard to work with.
For example, if I’m using AI to plan a trip, understand a legal concept, write something, research a topic, or just think through a complicated question, “Claude Code plan mode” is not an alternative to that workflow.
The overlap is basically just that both involve AI and the word “plan.” The interaction model and the problem being solved are different.
i haven't seen any planning tools in chatgpt or deepseek or any other frontend i used. there are some similar tools but they aren't quite what fukurama offers.
what planning tools do you mean and what frontend do you use?
that's the idea i tried to convey with the image, thanks
yes it's AI generated - chatgpt. I prompted chatgpt for "something more hand-drawing'ish" and "something simpler and less detailed" 😅 you can see full 'production cycle' here: https://chatgpt.com/share/6ab77a71-1dc8-83ed-b66b-dad0b606de45 sorry it's probably not what can help to reproduce the style.
i'll still reply. first of all, i want to apologize if my response seemed aggressive or insulting to you. that was not my intention. my communication style might feel rough at edgs but i carry no ill intent. i'm just trying to understand your position, and am trying to convey my position. like a normal exchange of opinions you know? you don't have to get all defensive and insult me to prove your point.
i did read your response in fulll, in fact many times over.
you make baseless assumptions and belittle my experience and expertise based on.. based on what exactly? me using ai? that's not cool you know.
i never said it did. i said, quote “this dude used ai to create a cancer vaccine for his dying dog".
you're completely dismissing the rest of the article: tumors shrunk, condition improved, energy levels improved, dog got much better. And you know what else can be described as "We cannot be sure how much of Rosie’s improvement is due to the vaccine, how long it will last"? every fucking existing cancer treatment. No chemo is a guarantee you'll defeat cancer, or that it will never come back.
i didn't ignore anything though? i validated your part that plumbing is essential but i objected your stance that "ai is useless". and i brought US toilets up just to show how little water datacenters consume compared to 'regular' stuff like flushing a toilet. and okay my flushing toilets and agriculture examples were kinda bad. you can't just remove canalization or farms without killing everyone. but there are things we waste water on more.. wastefully? sorry for tautology.
my goal was to convey that the whole "SO MUCH WATER CONSUMPTION!!!" hysteria is only really relevant in draught-prone areas. and btw most other claims like "ai driving climate crisis" or the "heat dome" from some comment in this post are mostly pseudoscience.
if you really want to optimize water usage you should start with lawns, not ai.
i'm a cheerleader for technology in general. techno optimist you could say. AI is only part of it.
what exactly did LLMs, or companies that create them, steal from you? what meaningful contribution of knowledge did you make to this world that was worth "stealing" by LLMs?
in the US. China for example spends around $120B. as for "FOR WHAT?" i already answered that.
i kinda dislike that you ignored the one part of my response that i'm most interested in:
And I want to make an accent on "justifiable" because you say a lot about ai expenses being unjustified. You want ai stopped. How do you justify disruption of millions of lives and businesses that rely heavily on ai?
that's another long read for you 😅
no but if water was my concern i might have done just that.
no shit.
but AI also has a genuine utility. and i'm not talking specialized algorithms that figure out protein folding or detect cancer. i mean regular chatbots.
personally i benefit enormously from it. i coded and shipped more in the past year than in last 10 years. at work i write more code in a day than i used to in a week. it helped me diagnose an autoimmune disease that require treatment that shitty doctors in my backwater country failed to do. it explains things i don't understand. it helps me overcome my prejudice and help me be a better person. it provides me a second opinion when i need it. -- that's just a short list of shit ai helps me with. and i'm not using even 10% of it. there's text-to-speach, there's speach-to-text, there's image generation, video generation, audio generation -- these have enourmous amount of use cases, and helps enormous amount of people. think an indie dev that can solo an entire game in weeks/months that was previously simply impossible. think producers that can ship entire series for pennies. think all those dreamers that dreamed but lacked ability to actually produce.
honestly i don't understand how you don't see value in ai.
that's just 1% or even less of total US water consumption. agriculture sucks up 30% if i'm not mistaken. but okay agriculture is food. we really need food. but watering lawns. do we need our lawns green and pretty that bad to waste 1.5 trillion gallons of water on it? and that's wasted, not total consumed. total consumed - multiply by 2.
i can agree with that.
well ai is a tool. some tools are used by bad people to do bad things. but for every "this dude used ai to do bad stuff" article there's a "this dude used ai to create a cancer vaccine for his dying dog" article
do you know how useful that is? i mean maybe not for you, but for someone who have to handle hundreds of mails daily? but really that's one real narrow real silly use case. more serious use cases: improved ai discovering new math, physics, chemistry, ai automating research - including usage of alphafold and all other scientific tools - to discover new drugs, new materials; ai optimizing business processes. and that's not some 'high-on-hope' shit like it was just 2 years ago. it's real. it's happening right fucking now.
think for a moment: why are you wasting your time and effort and mental energy to fight technology? like what for? what do you want to achieve? i mean i understand what you want to achieve. but is it a realistic outcome? like how do you see this fight turning out for you? like tomorrow doland trump addresses the nation: "TODAY I'M STOPPING AI. NO MORE AI." and xi goes like "特朗普停止了人工智能。我们也必须停止。", and all businesses that are ears dip in ai shit all go like "yeah we ain't need no ai, let's undo all our automation workflows and rehire all those people we deleted". you do you of course but i really, really hate wasting my effort on something that is very unlikely to happen.
i wanna get a bit personal - why are you doing this? "stop ai" isn't a goal. what do you want to achieve by stopping ai? like what improvements in your day-to-day life do you see if it's stopped? your relationships? work? do these improvements justify personal tragedies of millions of people who depend on ai?
and last question: have you actually used ai enough to confidently say it's useless?
fuck that was a long write. and will be a long read. hope you'll read it 😅
I think humor should still be truthful, because plenty of people will believe whatever they read online and then repeat it as fact.
Honestly, this could even be a Chinese campaign to make Americans stupider. They’d benefit from that.
The previous paragraph is a completely made-up misinformation - exactly the kind of thing people can easily believe and spread. Which helps nobody. Except China.
All US households consume 1 trillion gallons water a year flushing toilets. That's 4x more water consumption than datacenters.
Please elaborate what's being destroyed for everyone.
The 2N3904 isn’t “minimum requirements for Linux” - it’s one bipolar transistor, and a Linux-capable computer still needs a CPU made from vastly more transistors, plus RAM, storage, clocking, buses, and supporting hardware. Not funny.
That’s not the same thing.
Claude in VS Code is an agent/coding harness. “Plan” mode helps the agent plan how to perform a task before it edits code.
Fukurama is a general-purpose chat frontend. The problem I’m solving is what happens during a long conversation: you branch into clarifications/tangents, useful information gets scattered across many messages, and the main thread becomes hard to work with.
For example, if I’m using AI to plan a trip, understand a legal concept, write something, research a topic, or just think through a complicated question, “Claude Code plan mode” is not an alternative to that workflow.
The overlap is basically just that both involve AI and the word “plan.” The interaction model and the problem being solved are different.
upd: updated for clarity
i haven't seen any planning tools in chatgpt or deepseek or any other frontend i used. there are some similar tools but they aren't quite what fukurama offers.
what planning tools do you mean and what frontend do you use?