@moonbunny I think that's pretty much it. Gotta make a tangible perceived difference. Then mass invest in alternatives that actually improve things long term. Then at some point play parts of the same class against each other - large vehicles vs smaller vehicles to remove truck commuters from the roads.
@Seigest I'm all aboard tracks and trains. I think all parties are onboard, Ford included. That said, I think one has to meet people where they are. In other words, one shouldn't ignore their material conditions. If a party wants those votes, they should address real problems with tangible solutions for these people.
I don't know enough about the 407 sale but I'm guessing it never got wide usage due to the tolls which made it easy to sell. If many use it, a sale would be difficult.
@banana_wizardSama the 905 really cares about highway traffic. Most people in the suburbs can't reach their workplace without getting on a highway. I'm not happy about it. I don't like that they also like filling an F150's worth of space for a single passenger, but it is what it is. If she wants to make a dent outside of Toronto and Hamilton, I'm not surprised she went in this direction. More broadly if we're to address the problem with higher highway capacity, the 407 is the cheapest option.
@moonbunny I think that's pretty much it. Gotta make a tangible perceived difference. Then mass invest in alternatives that actually improve things long term. Then at some point play parts of the same class against each other - large vehicles vs smaller vehicles to remove truck commuters from the roads.
@TomatoPotato69 I thought there was nothing the Liberals could do to stop him from bringing down the government. 🤔 I'm not complaining. 😁
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@Breve @Seigest my thoughts precisely.
@Seigest note that in isolation I'm not at all happy to spend money on highways.
@Seigest I'm all aboard tracks and trains. I think all parties are onboard, Ford included. That said, I think one has to meet people where they are. In other words, one shouldn't ignore their material conditions. If a party wants those votes, they should address real problems with tangible solutions for these people.
I don't know enough about the 407 sale but I'm guessing it never got wide usage due to the tolls which made it easy to sell. If many use it, a sale would be difficult.
@banana_wizardSama the 905 really cares about highway traffic. Most people in the suburbs can't reach their workplace without getting on a highway. I'm not happy about it. I don't like that they also like filling an F150's worth of space for a single passenger, but it is what it is. If she wants to make a dent outside of Toronto and Hamilton, I'm not surprised she went in this direction. More broadly if we're to address the problem with higher highway capacity, the 407 is the cheapest option.
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More accurately - they'll remove tolls, then initiate repurchase. So the effects on people and traffic would be immediate.