A quick Google gives the definition of ethnic cleansing as "systematic forced removal" so if it's voluntary it just can't fit the definition as far as I can see. Plus- it sounds like the vast majority of Gazans will not be leaving anyway, the "whole people" aren't leaving, just the ones who want to.
When I moved to germany a few years back for work you could argue I was "politely induced" to do that by my new employer and the salary they offered. But nobody would seriously say I was displaced or ethnically cleansed. Even if this German company hired ten thousand british people and they all had to renounce their UK citizenship as part of it.
But I'll keep an open mind that perhaps they are being forced somehow. If the palestinian refugees leaving feel they're being forced into this then I could agree with the ethnic cleansing accusation.
As I mentioned in a different comment, it would be interesting to hear the perspectives of Palestinians accepting this offer.
I assumed that anyone who considers it ethnic cleansing would refuse the offer anyway. And I also imagine there are plenty who just don't want to live under a Hamas government any more and the endless conflict/holy war that entails (Personally I'm not expecting Hamas to disarm or relinquish governance, presumably many Gazans have the same view).
I did find this article in al Jazeera and the guy who's leaving Gaza seems pretty happy about it and probably wouldn't describe himself as a victim of ethnic cleansing. Its only a sample size of 1 though so doesn't mean a whole lot on its own.
You make a fair point but the sticking point for me is that if it's voluntary then it's not ethnic cleansing. Unless these Palestinian refugees are being deceived, which doesn't appear to be the case (happy to be proven wrong though). No ethnic cleansing has ever been voluntary as far as I'm aware.
If russia wins the war against Ukraine i also don't think those Ukranians would be able to go back, or it would be dangerous for them to do so. And I think they know that. They've lived in the UK for so long, I expect russia would consider them not welcome after spending so much time in an "enemy country".
Actually I think something that would convince me the Gaza situation is ethnic cleansing is if a significant number of the Palestinians accepting the offer consider it to be that. If they say they're leaving because they are being forced to then fair enough, I'd be happy to concede it. The impression I get from reading articles like this though is those that want to leave don't see it that way.
It doesn't shock me at all. I expect that these palestinian refugees are well aware they likely won't be able to return and they factor that into their decision of whether or not to leave. Personally if I was in their place I'd be OK with that since Gaza's government seems committed to endless war anyway.
I don't think the situation is normal or ordinary though. Not sure what you think I said that.
I will be going back for christmas again this year so I can let my mum know she's a war criminal for "openly encouraging" others of a given (ukranian) ethnicity to emigrate and stay at her house.
I just don't see how there will ever be an agreement between the US and Iran. The US can't abide by Iran's nuclear program and Iran likely feels they need it as a deterrence against the US attacking them again.
When I went back home for christmas the other year my mum had taken in two Ukranian refugees. Was she facilitating a "voluntary genocide" by doing that? Or was she just engaging in ethnic cleansing. Clearly she coerced them with the offer of food and shelter so it couldn't have been voluntary?
Israel-based human rights organisations and lawyers have warned that the conditions Israel has imposed on Gaza mean no departure can be considered voluntary
So Palestinians who actually want to leave should be forced, against their will, to remain in a warzone because they don't know what's good for them? Do we support Gaza being an "open air prison" now?
I found that Duolingo just gives you phrases to repeat and memorize but Babbel actually teaches you the rules of the language and is structured more like real lessons. Definitely worth the switch.
Would it not be correct to say that there were two parallel democratic institutions at the time? i.e. The soviets and the duma? And the bolsheviks recognised the soviets as the legitimate one (where they also happened to be much more popular).
Until China starts openly threatening canada's sovreignty, they will be a better friend than the US.
This will last until interference becomes so egregious and corrosive that it’s impossible to ignore.
The US government has been meeting with Canadian seperatists and that is already impossible to ignore. Is Chinese interference going to be more profound than that?
the CCP is directing espionage and foreign interference operations throughout western democracies, and Canada is a particular target
The US government has been spying on it's allies for decades. At least china doesn't pretend to be our friend while they do it.
“the Party’s weapon that it uses to expand control and influence without force.”
Sounds preferable to open threats of military invasion.
The size of the universe means that the chances of other life existing in it is extremely high. But it also means that the chances of us ever knowing about them is astronomically low. Plus, everything we know about physics indicates that FTL travel is not possible.
I have no idea. The only article I've seen claiming it so far is from a media outlet with about the same amount of credibility as a monkey with a typewriter.
A quick Google gives the definition of ethnic cleansing as "systematic forced removal" so if it's voluntary it just can't fit the definition as far as I can see. Plus- it sounds like the vast majority of Gazans will not be leaving anyway, the "whole people" aren't leaving, just the ones who want to.
When I moved to germany a few years back for work you could argue I was "politely induced" to do that by my new employer and the salary they offered. But nobody would seriously say I was displaced or ethnically cleansed. Even if this German company hired ten thousand british people and they all had to renounce their UK citizenship as part of it.
But I'll keep an open mind that perhaps they are being forced somehow. If the palestinian refugees leaving feel they're being forced into this then I could agree with the ethnic cleansing accusation.
As I mentioned in a different comment, it would be interesting to hear the perspectives of Palestinians accepting this offer.
I assumed that anyone who considers it ethnic cleansing would refuse the offer anyway. And I also imagine there are plenty who just don't want to live under a Hamas government any more and the endless conflict/holy war that entails (Personally I'm not expecting Hamas to disarm or relinquish governance, presumably many Gazans have the same view).
I did find this article in al Jazeera and the guy who's leaving Gaza seems pretty happy about it and probably wouldn't describe himself as a victim of ethnic cleansing. Its only a sample size of 1 though so doesn't mean a whole lot on its own.
You make a fair point but the sticking point for me is that if it's voluntary then it's not ethnic cleansing. Unless these Palestinian refugees are being deceived, which doesn't appear to be the case (happy to be proven wrong though). No ethnic cleansing has ever been voluntary as far as I'm aware.
If russia wins the war against Ukraine i also don't think those Ukranians would be able to go back, or it would be dangerous for them to do so. And I think they know that. They've lived in the UK for so long, I expect russia would consider them not welcome after spending so much time in an "enemy country".
Actually I think something that would convince me the Gaza situation is ethnic cleansing is if a significant number of the Palestinians accepting the offer consider it to be that. If they say they're leaving because they are being forced to then fair enough, I'd be happy to concede it. The impression I get from reading articles like this though is those that want to leave don't see it that way.
Got it, I'll tell my mum she's a Nazi too and she's committing a holocaust.
It doesn't shock me at all. I expect that these palestinian refugees are well aware they likely won't be able to return and they factor that into their decision of whether or not to leave. Personally if I was in their place I'd be OK with that since Gaza's government seems committed to endless war anyway.
I don't think the situation is normal or ordinary though. Not sure what you think I said that.
I will be going back for christmas again this year so I can let my mum know she's a war criminal for "openly encouraging" others of a given (ukranian) ethnicity to emigrate and stay at her house.
I just don't see how there will ever be an agreement between the US and Iran. The US can't abide by Iran's nuclear program and Iran likely feels they need it as a deterrence against the US attacking them again.
When I went back home for christmas the other year my mum had taken in two Ukranian refugees. Was she facilitating a "voluntary genocide" by doing that? Or was she just engaging in ethnic cleansing. Clearly she coerced them with the offer of food and shelter so it couldn't have been voluntary?
Its basically impossible to make VPNs illegal. They're trivial to set up and many of the worlds businesses depend on them for their IT infrastructure.
So Palestinians who actually want to leave should be forced, against their will, to remain in a warzone because they don't know what's good for them? Do we support Gaza being an "open air prison" now?
Babbel is a lot better than Duolingo.
I found that Duolingo just gives you phrases to repeat and memorize but Babbel actually teaches you the rules of the language and is structured more like real lessons. Definitely worth the switch.
Would it not be correct to say that there were two parallel democratic institutions at the time? i.e. The soviets and the duma? And the bolsheviks recognised the soviets as the legitimate one (where they also happened to be much more popular).
Iran is already treating them like valid military targets though.
Divisions in the army should be called fingerys.
They recently announced they're working on support for hardware from other manufacturers:
https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/
Until China starts openly threatening canada's sovreignty, they will be a better friend than the US.
The US government has been meeting with Canadian seperatists and that is already impossible to ignore. Is Chinese interference going to be more profound than that?
The US government has been spying on it's allies for decades. At least china doesn't pretend to be our friend while they do it.
Sounds preferable to open threats of military invasion.
The size of the universe means that the chances of other life existing in it is extremely high. But it also means that the chances of us ever knowing about them is astronomically low. Plus, everything we know about physics indicates that FTL travel is not possible.
The "powerful Israeli group" made a complaint according to the article, they didn't "force" anything. And apparently it was a valid complaint.
It doesn't seem ethical for a museum to reject valid complaints from certain people because you don't like the government of the country they're from.
But from this article this is relating to:
The change doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It wouldn't make sense to refer to Ancient Rome as "Italy" or Ancient Persia as "Iran" either.
I have no idea. The only article I've seen claiming it so far is from a media outlet with about the same amount of credibility as a monkey with a typewriter.
presstv.ir has some of the worst ratings I've ever seen on mediabiasfactcheck: