I'd like less focus on the network and more on individual servers, with their own names, policies, and reputations. Then users aren't thinking about whether to join one huge network - they're thinking about whether that server is the kind of place they want to be. (https://wandering.shop is a good example of an instance that is explicitly going for certain vibes.)
It would allow individual pre-existing communities to create their own spaces, ones which would prioritize those communities' experiences and needs over their connection to the rest of the fediverse. I'm imagining something like Dreamwidth or Fur Affinity or the many old-fashioned forums out there, just with the ability to follow users or navigate to topics on other instances if you know their names or URLs. I'm really not worried about discoverability outside the instance - to me, the instance is the platform, and anything outside of it is just an additional thing I can get to if I want it.
That being said, I think this approach is probably incompatible with trying to create a general-purpose social media site that also attracts a large number of users, at least not without a hefty marketing budget.
I think the biggest issue is HTTP Signatures - they're not part of the standard, they're not well-documented, and without them your server won't federate with anything and so you have no idea whether it works.
Plus sometimes an implementation works with Mastodon but not something else. I think Mastodon just uses certain headers when calculating the signature, but Bridgy Fed also includes the URL or something. The C# code I'd copied was programmed to exclude the URL always, so I had to change that, but it took a while to figure out that that was the issue.
Perhaps for images they'd have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that'd be enough.
Only reason I think they might not go this route is that it could make it hard for them to drop in Prodigy references. Although, they could definitely have the two EMHs talking to each other...
Of note: ActivityPub (the protocol) has its own logo, seen in https://activitypub.rocks/ and other places. The protocol and the community are absolutely separate things, so this is really good.
I've never really linked the rainbow star icon, just because I don't really like rainbows (IMO the ace flag is the prettiest but I might be biased). I'm also still not convinced that Meta's icon is even supposed to represent the fediverse, as opposed to just a Threads feature that lets it connect to the fediverse. So overall I'm a fan of this proposal, although it does bug me that it uses 6-pointed stars in the font on the webpage and 5-pointed stars in most other typefaces. The 5-pointed stars create some nice negative space.
@elena@lemmy.world@fediverse@lemmy.ml Sure, although I had forgotten that the community shares replies to, so it actually does federate out if I tag it.
ActivityPub addressing is really somewhat complex and pretty much any server is going to abstract it with things like at-mentions, sometimes making different assumptions. When I reply to lemmy posts from my microblog.pub server, I sometimes need to make sure to include both the user (@elena@lemmy.world) and community (@fediverse@lemmy.world) if they happen to be on different domains. Otherwise my server's addressing won't send it to the right place. And I doubt other lemmy instances will see this post unless I tag them too.
I know everyone here probably knows how to pirate things from overseas, but having the show available on a streaming service like Netflix or SkyShowtime is going to put it in front of more people who might like it and make it easier for them to recommend to their friends. I'd say the same thing no matter how long the wait was, to be honest. It took a good while for Summer Camp Island S6 to show up here in the U.S. but now it gets regular reruns on cable, which is what lets kids and teens find it. Better that the show's reach isn't restricted to people who already know what they're looking for.
CTV used to be the best at exposure by putting Star Trek on both streaming and linear - not sure why they're dropping the ball on this one.
Reminded me a lot of Discovery. What a cool episode for Zero - their character design is quite fitting I think and looks good. Wonder if we'll ever see that in live action. @startrek@startrek.website
Checking off two sci-fi bingo boxes with the classic "airplane race with an alien you just met" and "computer gone rogue" in the same half hour! Quite clever and brave of Zero to take the pointy AI out like that.
By the way, did Gwyn refer to Zero as a he in the log? If true, it wouldn't be the first time a character's pronouns have changed after you met them. Just like real life - I like that.
P.S. Is this the first time in Star Trek we hear a log in voiceover that also includes someone else's voice?
@JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works@fediverse@lemmy.world - https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks is a place where people discuss various ActivityPub implementations and potential improvements - primarily from a technological perspective (how the software is written), not as much from a cultural perspective (how users use the software), so it doesn't directly answer your question, but it might still be helpful in some cases
@ChasingEnigma@lemmy.world DeviantArt - I like separation between art, literature, and regular status updates, and the ability to group posts in your inbox into folders by who posted them. Or, more realistically, any of the various furry sites that work on a similar model and have less potential for cultural conflict.
@carlnewton@feddit.uk one advantage to a system like this, is that you don't need it to catch on in a bunch of different communities for it to work. It can catch on even in one place, and it will already be useful for the people there.
@prefetcher@sh.itjust.works Very nice! I might switch my single-user server to something like this someday - it'd be nice to have something I know how to make changes to. Also looks like the database and cache dependencies all run through ASP.NET Core stuff so they could be replaced (although I know from experience that just because you're using Cosmos DB thru EF Core doesn't mean you can write your schema the same way!)
@jaagruk@mander.xyz microblog.pub has RSS feeds. you do need to self-host it though. That's what I'm running on this account if you want to see an example
I'd like less focus on the network and more on individual servers, with their own names, policies, and reputations. Then users aren't thinking about whether to join one huge network - they're thinking about whether that server is the kind of place they want to be. (https://wandering.shop is a good example of an instance that is explicitly going for certain vibes.)
It would allow individual pre-existing communities to create their own spaces, ones which would prioritize those communities' experiences and needs over their connection to the rest of the fediverse. I'm imagining something like Dreamwidth or Fur Affinity or the many old-fashioned forums out there, just with the ability to follow users or navigate to topics on other instances if you know their names or URLs. I'm really not worried about discoverability outside the instance - to me, the instance is the platform, and anything outside of it is just an additional thing I can get to if I want it.
That being said, I think this approach is probably incompatible with trying to create a general-purpose social media site that also attracts a large number of users, at least not without a hefty marketing budget.
@dch82@lemmy.zip @fediverse@lemmy.world
I think the biggest issue is HTTP Signatures - they're not part of the standard, they're not well-documented, and without them your server won't federate with anything and so you have no idea whether it works.
Plus sometimes an implementation works with Mastodon but not something else. I think Mastodon just uses certain headers when calculating the signature, but Bridgy Fed also includes the URL or something. The C# code I'd copied was programmed to exclude the URL always, so I had to change that, but it took a while to figure out that that was the issue.
@matcha_addict@lemy.lol @fediverse@lemmy.world
Perhaps for images they'd have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that'd be enough.
@schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business @fediverse@lemmy.world
Only reason I think they might not go this route is that it could make it hard for them to drop in Prodigy references. Although, they could definitely have the two EMHs talking to each other...
@startrek@startrek.website
Of note: ActivityPub (the protocol) has its own logo, seen in https://activitypub.rocks/ and other places. The protocol and the community are absolutely separate things, so this is really good.
I've never really linked the rainbow star icon, just because I don't really like rainbows (IMO the ace flag is the prettiest but I might be biased). I'm also still not convinced that Meta's icon is even supposed to represent the fediverse, as opposed to just a Threads feature that lets it connect to the fediverse. So overall I'm a fan of this proposal, although it does bug me that it uses 6-pointed stars in the font on the webpage and 5-pointed stars in most other typefaces. The 5-pointed stars create some nice negative space.
@fediverse@lemmy.world
@elena@lemmy.world @fediverse@lemmy.ml Sure, although I had forgotten that the community shares replies to, so it actually does federate out if I tag it.
ActivityPub addressing is really somewhat complex and pretty much any server is going to abstract it with things like at-mentions, sometimes making different assumptions. When I reply to lemmy posts from my microblog.pub server, I sometimes need to make sure to include both the user (@elena@lemmy.world) and community (@fediverse@lemmy.world) if they happen to be on different domains. Otherwise my server's addressing won't send it to the right place. And I doubt other lemmy instances will see this post unless I tag them too.
I know everyone here probably knows how to pirate things from overseas, but having the show available on a streaming service like Netflix or SkyShowtime is going to put it in front of more people who might like it and make it easier for them to recommend to their friends. I'd say the same thing no matter how long the wait was, to be honest. It took a good while for Summer Camp Island S6 to show up here in the U.S. but now it gets regular reruns on cable, which is what lets kids and teens find it. Better that the show's reach isn't restricted to people who already know what they're looking for.
CTV used to be the best at exposure by putting Star Trek on both streaming and linear - not sure why they're dropping the ball on this one.
@startrek@startrek.website
They had to turn the ship into a boat! (What an odd sentence.)
@startrek@startrek.website
@Stormygeddon@startrek.website I'd love to see Andorians and Tellarites struggle to pronounce place names like Ashwaubenon and Oconomowoc.
Reminded me a lot of Discovery. What a cool episode for Zero - their character design is quite fitting I think and looks good. Wonder if we'll ever see that in live action. @startrek@startrek.website
Checking off two sci-fi bingo boxes with the classic "airplane race with an alien you just met" and "computer gone rogue" in the same half hour! Quite clever and brave of Zero to take the pointy AI out like that.
By the way, did Gwyn refer to Zero as a he in the log? If true, it wouldn't be the first time a character's pronouns have changed after you met them. Just like real life - I like that.
P.S. Is this the first time in Star Trek we hear a log in voiceover that also includes someone else's voice?
@startrek@startrek.website
Also posted to reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/1dqotgy/could_any_of_the_main_characters_of_prodigy_have/
@daystrominstitute@startrek.website
@startrek@startrek.website Michaela Dietz playing a Vulcan, that sounds interesting!
@JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works @fediverse@lemmy.world - https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks is a place where people discuss various ActivityPub implementations and potential improvements - primarily from a technological perspective (how the software is written), not as much from a cultural perspective (how users use the software), so it doesn't directly answer your question, but it might still be helpful in some cases
@ChasingEnigma@lemmy.world DeviantArt - I like separation between art, literature, and regular status updates, and the ability to group posts in your inbox into folders by who posted them. Or, more realistically, any of the various furry sites that work on a similar model and have less potential for cultural conflict.
@carlnewton@feddit.uk one advantage to a system like this, is that you don't need it to catch on in a bunch of different communities for it to work. It can catch on even in one place, and it will already be useful for the people there.
@prefetcher@sh.itjust.works Very nice! I might switch my single-user server to something like this someday - it'd be nice to have something I know how to make changes to. Also looks like the database and cache dependencies all run through ASP.NET Core stuff so they could be replaced (although I know from experience that just because you're using Cosmos DB thru EF Core doesn't mean you can write your schema the same way!)
@jaagruk@mander.xyz microblog.pub has RSS feeds. you do need to self-host it though. That's what I'm running on this account if you want to see an example
@ZeroCool@feddit.ch Kind of reminds me of how music streaming services give you playlists that other people put together. Neat idea