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Ukraine is not really application of the flypaper theory since Russia took the initiative in invading Ukraine. The West did not draw Russia to invade. However, to stop Russia's hybrid attacks on Europe, Europe could supply Ukraine with more weapons such as Germany's Taurus missile and France's Rafale jet fighter.

It is debatable whether the UK and France had the military capability to stop Hitler or simply didn't have the will.

You have to review the context of our discussion. It concerned the solution to Russia's hybrid war against Europe. You mistakenly thought I said use Ukraine as a fly paper. In response I said Europe would prefer that it be the fly paper.

The president of Czechoslovakia, Edouard Benes was unwilling to give the Sudetenland to Hitler and appealed to France with whom Czechoslovakia had a defensive alliance. France asked the UK for help.

The UK and France thought that letting Hitler have the Sudetenland would appease him and prevent a war. It didn't.

The flypaper theory is correct but in the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, the French underestimated the Viet Minh. Specifically, the French didn't believe the Viet Minh would be able to haul artillery up the surrounding mountains.

What I said was that Europe would prefer that Russia attack it rather than Ukraine. Then the combined forces of Europe would be able to defeat Russia. War might be inevitable if Russia continues to attack Ukraine and provoke Europe with hybrid war. The UK and France gave Hitler the Sudetenland hoping that this would appease him and avoid war but it didn't.

Since the CDU has already adopted a tougher immigration policy, the AfD is exploiting Germany's economic problems just as Hitler rose to power because the democratic Weimar Republic couldn't control inflation. The CDU has to ask how the AfD plans to solve Germany's economic problems. Some believe that Hitler's economic policies would not have worked but they were masked by the war.

The Battle of Dien Bien Phu is a better example of the Flypaper Strategy. In the case of Ukraine, Europe is not trying to draw Russia to attack Ukraine but it's Putin making that choice. Actually, it would be better to attract Russia to attack Europe where it could be destroyed by the combined European armies and perhaps the US but don't count on Trump. In the present situation, Europe could help Ukraine more. France could supply its Rafale fighter and Germany its Taurus missile.

The West has to decide whether it wants Ukraine to win or lose. Ukraine cannot win if Europe is afraid of antagonizing Putin. Remember at one time the West was afraid to supply jet fighters and tanks to Ukraine. If Putin realizes the West is afraid of nuclear weapons, then he will threaten to use them every time the West wants to give Ukraine an edge. Of course, some caution is necessary. That's the reason in my proposal only the UK and France would supply troops. If too many European countries join, Putin will say he must use nuclear weapons because he is being overwhelmed.