I’m trying to push back against the polarized, totally pro-China folks who are only following a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” rhetoric, thus becoming blind to all of China’s major issues.
To be honest, these people are few and far between. Most people will give you well-thought-out reasoning if you ask them for it respectfully.
For example, another point is that the entire economic boom in China is driven by an enormous working class that is heavily overexploited by the State yet rendered invisible for convenience, and that is barely compensated with less than the cost of a piece of candy for that labor.
Source?
You need much more than that (as far as I remember, a specific form of DPI bypass, sometimes the use of multiple VPNs at once
Everything I've heard about this has said you just need a preinstalled VPN, international eSIM, or roaming plan
Can you name a few?
I'm no expert on China but here is a list on Wikipedia that took less than 30 seconds to find
Do you remember the whole thing with the Winnie the Pooh picture?
You know Winnie the Pooh isn't banned in China, right? Do you have any sources for claims? Because it sounds like you're projecting your thoughts about Maduro and Chavez onto Xi
Fair points I guess, but I'd like to point out that a lot of these were made as defensive measures against outside interference and aren't actually all that different from stuff NATO countries are doing right now. Their mass surveillance isn't driven by corporations trying to extract every last penny off of you, which is more than what any NATO country can say. You can also just get a VPN in China and access the outside internet relatively easily. And what Xi Jinping image cult? I'm pretty sure that ended with Mao. There are also other political parties in China BTW, although they only serve advisory positions to the CPC. Not saying any of this stuff is good, of course, just that it's not that much worse, or in some cases even better, than rival countries. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about China can explain this better.
Then surely you would know that NATO's propaganda is far more pervasive and commonplace than that of non-NATO countries, and that just because another source disagrees with NATO's official message it's not necessarily propaganda (at least, not one that fabricates evidence)?
It's so crazy that I've never met one then, only people with takes that are nuanced and are based on non-CIA approved sources (although I really think this only applies to Xi, I've never seen a single person supporting Putin)
Seriously though, I think you're pre-emptively blocking out what people are actually arguing just because you perceive it to be russian or chinese or whatever propaganda. Almost everyone I've talked to/seen has had reasonable takes that are based on evidence, and a huge part of that is asking why they believe what they do instead of just screaming "TANKIE" at them
Genuine question, is North Korea considered a monarchy (or monarcho-socialist), considering the Kim family has ruled it uncontested for generations? I know that a lot of stuff you read about North Korea in mainstream news is misinformation/propaganda so I'm curious
I looked at Winboat's website, and it seems really interesting but as an engineering student idk if it's a good idea to take the risk of running a WIP software to access it. Plus, when I tried installing Linux last time (mint) it caused my trackpad, keyboard backlight, power mode options, and gpu/screen drivers to break (couldn't run hdr, resolution locked to 1080p60, games only ran with integrated graphics). I know I can fix a good chunk of this is stuff on my own with downloading the right drivers/programs and enough time, but I don't really want to spend any time doing that (and risk doing it incorrectly) since all my school work is on here
What makes you prefer Gnome? To me, it always felt too simple, as if they're treating the user like a child learning how a computer works. I have the same issue with MacOS too
Yeah. Anarchist leftism achieves... um... wait, what has anarchism achieved again?
(I'm just messing around)
To be honest, these people are few and far between. Most people will give you well-thought-out reasoning if you ask them for it respectfully.
Source?
Everything I've heard about this has said you just need a preinstalled VPN, international eSIM, or roaming plan
I'm no expert on China but here is a list on Wikipedia that took less than 30 seconds to find
You know Winnie the Pooh isn't banned in China, right? Do you have any sources for claims? Because it sounds like you're projecting your thoughts about Maduro and Chavez onto Xi
Just wanna say that Blindisght and Westworld (at least S1, I stopped after) are awesome
Fair points I guess, but I'd like to point out that a lot of these were made as defensive measures against outside interference and aren't actually all that different from stuff NATO countries are doing right now. Their mass surveillance isn't driven by corporations trying to extract every last penny off of you, which is more than what any NATO country can say. You can also just get a VPN in China and access the outside internet relatively easily. And what Xi Jinping image cult? I'm pretty sure that ended with Mao. There are also other political parties in China BTW, although they only serve advisory positions to the CPC. Not saying any of this stuff is good, of course, just that it's not that much worse, or in some cases even better, than rival countries. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about China can explain this better.
wasn't expecting instance racism today on lemmy lmao. give me some of your enlightened, non-propagandized takes then
such as..?
Rule 1 is long past dead...
Then surely you would know that NATO's propaganda is far more pervasive and commonplace than that of non-NATO countries, and that just because another source disagrees with NATO's official message it's not necessarily propaganda (at least, not one that fabricates evidence)?
ok
It's so crazy that I've never met one then, only people with takes that are nuanced and are based on non-CIA approved sources (although I really think this only applies to Xi, I've never seen a single person supporting Putin)
Seriously though, I think you're pre-emptively blocking out what people are actually arguing just because you perceive it to be russian or chinese or whatever propaganda. Almost everyone I've talked to/seen has had reasonable takes that are based on evidence, and a huge part of that is asking why they believe what they do instead of just screaming "TANKIE" at them
That animation style scares the hell out of me
"Both sides are the same! I am very smart."
Genuine question, is North Korea considered a monarchy (or monarcho-socialist), considering the Kim family has ruled it uncontested for generations? I know that a lot of stuff you read about North Korea in mainstream news is misinformation/propaganda so I'm curious
Are these Putin and Xi simpers in the room with us right now?
I'm still drilling it into my own lol
That you don't actually have to do everything perfectly, doing more things but 80% correctly is usually better
I agree but isn't this off-topic to the comment you're replying to?
I looked at Winboat's website, and it seems really interesting but as an engineering student idk if it's a good idea to take the risk of running a WIP software to access it. Plus, when I tried installing Linux last time (mint) it caused my trackpad, keyboard backlight, power mode options, and gpu/screen drivers to break (couldn't run hdr, resolution locked to 1080p60, games only ran with integrated graphics). I know I can fix a good chunk of this is stuff on my own with downloading the right drivers/programs and enough time, but I don't really want to spend any time doing that (and risk doing it incorrectly) since all my school work is on here
What makes you prefer Gnome? To me, it always felt too simple, as if they're treating the user like a child learning how a computer works. I have the same issue with MacOS too
Can't you access those with RPM Fusion or something? Whenever I'm able to switch back to Linux I'd really want to start daily driving Fedora