Maybe I was born to be a bureaucrat, but any tagging system outside of some major booru sites is inevitably garbage, both in design and misuse and underuse by users. e621 (furry porn archive) has, by far, the best tagging system I've seen in the wild, Danbooru (anime art) in second place. Both sites have an alternate front-end for only showing art tagged as safe-for-work (e926 and Safebooru) so explore the tags and their wiki pages with the [?] if you can. An extremely important concept are tag aliases and implications - there's no point having the tag dildo not implied in the search sex toy, or having male on female not imply male + female, or having two differently worded tags for the same porn concept and just hoping uploaders will add both.
I'm amazed at how difficult it is for video sites to just declare "no males please" or something equally basic. Like OP mentioned, blacklisting or searching for negative tags is great, but it's a joke 99% of the time.
There is one (1) tube site which is still mostly bad tagging, but I do effective subscribe to a couple of tags of content I know I will like, and I sometimes scan them to check there's no signs of something I don't want to see.
Guessing here too, but I suspect a sense of security that comes with it, and with femdom in general. And probably also an intimacy aspect. Especially for things like porn and one-off encounters where there usually isn't much intimacy inherent in the situation.
Eh, no real appeal for me. I'm not big on beaches so it would be pretty boring for me and while I'm pro-nudism (the human body should be normalized), it's not important enough for me to get involved in their communities.
@___@lemmynsfw.com: Since the AI tech moves fast, I think it would be better have this post link over to (for example) the !stable_diffusion@lemmy.dbzer0.com community's megathread for the regular setup and introduction details, and have this post just explain the NSFW specific parts, like recommended models and limitations (e.g. Flux.1 not having nudes unless you add a checkpoint/LoRa/etc.)
Clothing is symbolic and can absolutely be sexual. Nudity is often completely non-sexual (just ask nudists). Yet I find unclothing to be much more sexual than someone already being nude.
But even ignoring that, clothes can change the shape of body parts (e.g. push-up bras).
The admins of this site have added some basic mods onto the default Lemmy code (like nfsw-by-default), but I don’t think they’d want to develop tags as its own feature.
I agree. The further one strays from the source code, the harder maintenance can be. Just ask Hexbear, who diverged a huge way from Lemmy before spending a large amount of effort making their code compatible enough to federate again.
Hah, there's always a time and place for chaos, but there's also power and convenience in having a useful consistent format and metadata.
And that's not censorship - the only suggestion so far which actually would restrict expression is the "If you can't say something nice, don't say it" one. The rest are just saying "please add this extra information ([M/F] tags, sources)" which is almost the opposite of censorship, or removing obsolete dead links.
Like my bio says, I love a good bunch of tags. Less commercialized communities like the drawn porn ones have a culture of using booru sites (Japanese for 'board'), where posts don't have titles but just have tags. If the board has a decent culture and uploaders tag half-decently, it's an infinitely better experience to a tube site or a reddit-like aggregator where you just have clickbait titles competing and maybe a [M/F] tag if you're lucky. On a high-quality booru, you can simply just search like solo female facepaint -clown.
My point being, that a site like this just isn't ideal. Tagging will always be a coping mechanism. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, but it's an uphill battle. Even on some video tube sites I've seen with a tagging system at its very core, it's neglected to the point that it's worthless even for basic fetishes. Here, you'd need an automoderator or a dedicated moderator to enforce basic sex tags in titles.
I used to use certain NSFW video/GIF sharing forums, finding or making a thread dedicated to the kink and starting with examples. It's also possible to cast a wider net (e.g. 'leggings thread') and then request more of a certain kink ('animal-print leggings').
I can't give examples, I'm just not in the scene and the sites I know died long ago, and surely there are some around. I'm tempted to even do an analogue here, making a Lemmy community instead of a thread. I just don't have the time or interest to moderate another site (I already manage too many)
The Cheese Grater Image, also known as the Cheese Grater Raccoon, is a reference to a picture of Fender, an anthropomorphic ferret-fox, who has an unknown partner using a cheese grater as an instrument of sexual gratification on him. It is often regarded and referenced within the furry community as "nightmare fuel".
It involves anal penetration and blood. So yeah, don't want that. Either in real life or as a hentai tag.
(sorry for late reply, I don't use this account much)
On the subject of contrasts: You show me four women and I’d pick the one who is apparently different, every time. Three blondes and a brunette? Three brunettes and a blonde? Three sundresses and shorts and t-shirt? I’ll pick “the ___ one” every time.
I wonder if you can run a small scientific test, where the same two women each take turns as the odd one out.
I don't, but I'm here because the discussion is better. I don't even look at comments on most porn sites, including boorus. It's just masturbation, or on certain boorus, derailing into [usually political] arguments.
Boorus generally have a search phrase to order by score. Scoring may be less in-your-face than on a Lemmy-like site, but it's still usually good on booru sites to prioritze well-made art.
along with all the rest mentioned, of course. Maybe an interesting question would be things we like in porn but not in reality. I remember someone pointing out showers are very erotic for pornography but with two people it's a fight over the hot water.
Good to finally see a PMV which already lists all the actors. Great vid!
Maybe I was born to be a bureaucrat, but any tagging system outside of some major booru sites is inevitably garbage, both in design and misuse and underuse by users. e621 (furry porn archive) has, by far, the best tagging system I've seen in the wild, Danbooru (anime art) in second place. Both sites have an alternate front-end for only showing art tagged as safe-for-work (e926 and Safebooru) so explore the tags and their wiki pages with the [?] if you can. An extremely important concept are tag aliases and implications - there's no point having the tag
dildonot implied in the searchsex toy, or havingmale on femalenot implymale+female, or having two differently worded tags for the same porn concept and just hoping uploaders will add both.Here is the safebooru search cheat sheet, showing off what is possible with good tagging and good searching.
I'm amazed at how difficult it is for video sites to just declare "no males please" or something equally basic. Like OP mentioned, blacklisting or searching for negative tags is great, but it's a joke 99% of the time.
There is one (1) tube site which is still mostly bad tagging, but I do effective subscribe to a couple of tags of content I know I will like, and I sometimes scan them to check there's no signs of something I don't want to see.
Guessing here too, but I suspect a sense of security that comes with it, and with femdom in general. And probably also an intimacy aspect. Especially for things like porn and one-off encounters where there usually isn't much intimacy inherent in the situation.
Eh, no real appeal for me. I'm not big on beaches so it would be pretty boring for me and while I'm pro-nudism (the human body should be normalized), it's not important enough for me to get involved in their communities.
@___@lemmynsfw.com: Since the AI tech moves fast, I think it would be better have this post link over to (for example) the !stable_diffusion@lemmy.dbzer0.com community's megathread for the regular setup and introduction details, and have this post just explain the NSFW specific parts, like recommended models and limitations (e.g. Flux.1 not having nudes unless you add a checkpoint/LoRa/etc.)
I use Forge UI and do recommend it, especially for low VRAM devices, although note, now there are some incompatibilities with some A1111 extensions.
I haven't tried it, but Krita's plug-in is very impressive to watch.
Clothing is symbolic and can absolutely be sexual. Nudity is often completely non-sexual (just ask nudists). Yet I find unclothing to be much more sexual than someone already being nude.
But even ignoring that, clothes can change the shape of body parts (e.g. push-up bras).
I agree. The further one strays from the source code, the harder maintenance can be. Just ask Hexbear, who diverged a huge way from Lemmy before spending a large amount of effort making their code compatible enough to federate again.
Hah, there's always a time and place for chaos, but there's also power and convenience in having a useful consistent format and metadata.
And that's not censorship - the only suggestion so far which actually would restrict expression is the "If you can't say something nice, don't say it" one. The rest are just saying "please add this extra information ([M/F] tags, sources)" which is almost the opposite of censorship, or removing obsolete dead links.
Like my bio says, I love a good bunch of tags. Less commercialized communities like the drawn porn ones have a culture of using booru sites (Japanese for 'board'), where posts don't have titles but just have tags. If the board has a decent culture and uploaders tag half-decently, it's an infinitely better experience to a tube site or a reddit-like aggregator where you just have clickbait titles competing and maybe a [M/F] tag if you're lucky. On a high-quality booru, you can simply just search like
solo female facepaint -clown.My point being, that a site like this just isn't ideal. Tagging will always be a coping mechanism. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, but it's an uphill battle. Even on some video tube sites I've seen with a tagging system at its very core, it's neglected to the point that it's worthless even for basic fetishes. Here, you'd need an automoderator or a dedicated moderator to enforce basic sex tags in titles.
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I used to use certain NSFW video/GIF sharing forums, finding or making a thread dedicated to the kink and starting with examples. It's also possible to cast a wider net (e.g. 'leggings thread') and then request more of a certain kink ('animal-print leggings').
I can't give examples, I'm just not in the scene and the sites I know died long ago, and surely there are some around. I'm tempted to even do an analogue here, making a Lemmy community instead of a thread. I just don't have the time or interest to moderate another site (I already manage too many)
It's literal. A cheese grater.
It involves anal penetration and blood. So yeah, don't want that. Either in real life or as a hentai tag.
(sorry for late reply, I don't use this account much)
I wonder if you can run a small scientific test, where the same two women each take turns as the odd one out.
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I don't, but I'm here because the discussion is better. I don't even look at comments on most porn sites, including boorus. It's just masturbation, or on certain boorus, derailing into [usually political] arguments.
Boorus generally have a search phrase to order by score. Scoring may be less in-your-face than on a Lemmy-like site, but it's still usually good on booru sites to prioritze well-made art.
It's surprising how they're all themes of being dominated until 'smell my feet', a typically dominant act.
cheese_grateralong with all the rest mentioned, of course. Maybe an interesting question would be things we like in porn but not in reality. I remember someone pointing out showers are very erotic for pornography but with two people it's a fight over the hot water.