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That is a conspiracy theory. Take something an Israeli minister says, put your own spin on it and add "context" without any evidence - while simultaneously ignoring the evidence of Russian influence, even belittling it. The way this tries to distract from Russia, one of their trolls could not have come up with anything better.

Just to make it very clear: I am not supporting the genocide in Gaza. Just because Israel is doing horrible things does not mean there are no other horrible people out there.

Es klingt mMn in der Beschreibung auch an, es wiederholt sich aber auch in der Wertung:

Äußerst bedenklich ist allerdings, dass beinahe nur Umweltprobleme thematisiert [...] und sich die "richtigen" politischen Positionen grundsätzlich "links" der politischen Mitte befinden.

Es ist aber schon recht klar, dass im Originaltext die "linken" Einstellungen als problematisch dargestellt werden (unabhängig davon ob sie auch rechts vorkommen). Zitat aus dem Text:

Kurz: Die "richtigen" politischen Positionen bzw. Verhaltensweisen sind ökologisch, postmaterialistisch, basisdemokratisch, kritisch, zivilcouragiert, pazifistisch, sozial, antikapitalistisch, egalitär, tendenziell anarchisch bzw. antistaatlich, antihierarchisch, antiautoritär und antikonservativ; mit anderen Worten: "links" der politischen Mitte (linksliberal bis linksalternativ).

That is outdated information, renewables + battery storage have become cheaper than nuclear power.

https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/en/documents/press-releases/2024/2024_ISE_e_PR_Photovoltaic%20Plants%20with%20Battery%20Cheaper%20than%20Conventional%20Power%20Plants.pdf

https://carboncredits.com/renewables-plus-storage-surge-as-battery-costs-drop-record-low-bnef-reports/

Side note, not relevant to discussion:

And Nuclear is on par with the safety of solar and wind but you seem prompt to forget that.

This feels rude. Your post already mentions safety of nuclear power as does the link I posted. Just from the fact that I did not reiterate that information you insinuate an opinion on my side that I did neither write nor imply.

While I agree that the current official stance on Israel is insane, it is not the majority opinion in Germany.

Do we still have a problem with Antisemitism? Sadly yes, especially now since some people project the behaviour of Israel on German Jews which is absolutely crazy. But I would argue that the overwhelming majority has a positive or neutral view on Judaism.

You sound like you have met too many crazy people from my country. But the loudest people are often not the majority. There are regular surveys on issues like these and I would classify your interpretation of German society as a fringe theory.

Your first sentence is my whole problem with that framing: Germany is not anti free-speech. It just does not subscribe to the US/UK view that you are allowed to say anything. Maybe voice your opinion without threatening or inciting violence? Maybe the US would be better off if some prosecutor could actually charge Musk after showing the Nazi salute?

I disagree with most of your remaining text but this is too far away from the original topic, I will not comment on that.

German here: Due to our own history, for specific cases, speech is much more restricted here compared to the UK (or the US until recently). These are things like inciting violence or "gruppenbezogene Menschenfeindlichkeit" (hostility towards / discrimination of a group of people).

So if someone chants "Death, death to the IDF" they could be charged. It will not necessarily end in a conviction if it is considered an acceptable protest.

So if you are expected to do something that might be a crime in Germany, it does not seem unreasonable to deny entry. However, the decision should be transparent to the impacted people and they should have the option to fight against that decision. This is the actual infuriating part of this story.

But framing this as a "Free Speech Crackdown" is a very British/US take on our laws.

If you want something to really complain about: The German government still considers Israel an ally and still supports them. We learnt a lot from our own history but somehow "Genocide is bad regardless of who is doing it" did not make the list.

Ich sehe es kommen: "Sie haben recht, der Zug in Richtung München wäre von Gleis 32 und nicht von Gleis 2 gefahren. Sie sitzen jetzt in einem ICE in Richtung Hamburg. Soll ich Ihnen eine Liste an Sehenswürdigkeiten aus Hamburg zusammenstellen?

Bitte nicht vergessen, dass ihr Ticket für diese Fahrt nicht gültig ist. Ihre Informationen wurden direkt digital an den Kontrolleur weitergeleitet."

Wohngeld kostet so 4 Milliarden https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2024/09/PD24_373_22311.html

Dienstwagenprivileg 3-5 Milliarden, Steuervorteile auf Kerosin ca. 10 Milliarden https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/steuerverguenstigungen-pendlerpauschale-dienstwagenprivileg-diese-subventionen-kosten-den-staat-viele-milliarden/28623450.html

Ja, scheint mir genau so richtig zu sein. Wenn du kein Geld mehr zum Wohnen hast, kauf dir einfach ein Flugticket, das bleibt immerhin günstig. /s

Jetzt ist sie zu weit gegangen, jetzt hat sie sich zu sehr offenbart. Bisher habe ich geglaubt sie sei wirklich Ministerin, aber jetzt ist es klar: Sie ist offensichtlich eine undercover Postillon Mitarbeiterin.

Der Artikel ist ein Aprilscherz, oder?