Go stand in the center of Boca and preach your Franco nationalistic fairy tale if you dare... whatever you say here is dust in the wind.
I am not saying it is for the right reasons that independence is pursued but can you really maintain a straight face and say it is a minority that wants it?
Yes, they are wealthy and don't want to share .. and support the rest of Spain.
It is easy to dismiss everything one writes with a silly characterization, but some rational argument and sources would give it some value, in this case you have 0.
If NATO-med members want to use their military to escort aid to #Gaza they should do it on their own, the flotilla existed because those same states refused to get involved in an Internal Israeli matter, basically the uprising of its slaves.
The flotilla is about people in solidarity helping people to fight off a state. They are trying to diffuse the movement against the genocide by a state "by having states handle it" and show that without a large scale military operation states will not alter course from their expanding nature.
Palestinians have displayed what the cost is of living without a state, wild sheep on the prairie.
Italian and Spanish soldiers are showing the benefits of having a pimp!
Also, some advice from someone possibly older, KID!
The moment you turn any political discussion to personal hunting for rationalism to mute someone, you have lost ALL political content.
If I was in the flotilla and I was involved in the past, I would have rejected state militaristic support or halt the flotilla till all (at least NATO) war machines of terror have turned around and gone back to their base.
I don't live in #Israel and there is little an outsider can do and I would be against outsiders intervening in domestic problems... and now you say if that was how it is done there would have never been an Israel to begin with.
And this millennium oscar in hypocrisy goes to EUROPE!!!! YEEAHHH!!!
#Spain and its rediscovered love for the flotilla, after sending federal troops and arresting the governor of #Catalunya to suppress its independence ...
After 1/2 a century of terrorism against #Basques
And #Greece which once was the only European country to recognize PLO will not recognize Palestine because that will provide grounds for Northern #Cyprus independence
Adding NoScript in librewolf and learning to choose what you want to see, and whether if scripts are enabled to do it on a private window, may be time consuming. But it shows the extent blackmail goes on by pages to allow them to collect data from you.
I often decide I don't need the information they supply that bad!
As in non-automatic being the old fashioned way of downloading a tarball or cloning the git, compiling and installing.
I was thinking more like the defaults on windows of doing upgrades automatically in the background, like a few GB every other week and if not on the desktop at the time or attempting to shutdown you may never notice.
There is a trend for such in linux, some pkg managers or people even making cron jobs to have it done daily, or mozilla
& others @Para_lyzed
The majority of people speak of junk/fast food 3 brands of soda, 2, 3 brands of coffee/tea, 2 brnands of tropical fruit ,3 brands of power-drinks, 3 brands of beer,
as nutrition, 2 brands of phone OSs, and it is all crap if not bad for you.
So what is your point?
What is popular is what has been marketed, and it is usually both dominant and a very poor alternative to what it sells for.
I am clearly speaking of the @linux bot constantly pumping systemd only distros, gnome, kde plasma, chrome, qt and other corporate trash that ubuntu mint manjaro debian have embraced as their devs are on the corporate payroll
Init is just one process, 98% of systemd is its logind, or its isolated fork called elogind, and its multilayered dbus labyrinth, which all those mentioned use. Running gnome and its applications without it is nearly impossible @Rustmilian
The one article almost literally says if you don't like systemd go to F**BSD and away from linux!
But yes, there are those irrelevant 3 mentions in a site as old as systemd itself.
And they have made money not by sharing but by monopolizing and selling, which makes them who they are.
You are a foul if you think a for profit (even non-profit) corporation will have an interest advancing Open and Free software. They are there to OWN code and trade names, MARKET trade names, to defeat alternatives that lack corporate/banking funding.
For as long as someone allows metaphysical crap to enter the brain the sky is the limit in how much shit can fill it up.
Someone with above average verbal skills can get on a payroll of a propaganda machine to feed more crap to idiots listening.
#materialism #dialectics #critical thought
@Miro_Collas @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
Go stand in the center of Boca and preach your Franco nationalistic fairy tale if you dare... whatever you say here is dust in the wind.
I am not saying it is for the right reasons that independence is pursued but can you really maintain a straight face and say it is a minority that wants it?
Yes, they are wealthy and don't want to share .. and support the rest of Spain.
@elucubra
Specifically ?
It is easy to dismiss everything one writes with a silly characterization, but some rational argument and sources would give it some value, in this case you have 0.
Which of those things I mention DID NOT HAPPEN?
@elucubra
If NATO-med members want to use their military to escort aid to #Gaza they should do it on their own, the flotilla existed because those same states refused to get involved in an Internal Israeli matter, basically the uprising of its slaves.
@doubtingtammy
The flotilla is about people in solidarity helping people to fight off a state. They are trying to diffuse the movement against the genocide by a state "by having states handle it" and show that without a large scale military operation states will not alter course from their expanding nature.
Palestinians have displayed what the cost is of living without a state, wild sheep on the prairie.
Italian and Spanish soldiers are showing the benefits of having a pimp!
@doubtingtammy
This is how these zionist fascist pigs win arguments by intimidating and threatening anyone against their propaganda and populism?
info@freefree.ps
@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
Also, some advice from someone possibly older, KID!
The moment you turn any political discussion to personal hunting for rationalism to mute someone, you have lost ALL political content.
If I was in the flotilla and I was involved in the past, I would have rejected state militaristic support or halt the flotilla till all (at least NATO) war machines of terror have turned around and gone back to their base.
IT IS NATO THAT KEPT ISRAEL ALIVE!
@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
......
Ask the #Kurds in #Syria/#Iraq how well did their reach out for foreign support go
Talking about looking for love in the all the wrong places
There is no #statehood that is good statehood
even #Transnistria
@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
I don't live in #Israel and there is little an outsider can do and I would be against outsiders intervening in domestic problems... and now you say if that was how it is done there would have never been an Israel to begin with.
#Imperialism #Colonialism #Racism all tied up in one big bundle around #Capitalism
I'll be judged by my peers right here .. and I sleep well in the occupied territory I live in.
@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
And this millennium oscar in hypocrisy goes to EUROPE!!!! YEEAHHH!!!
#Spain and its rediscovered love for the flotilla, after sending federal troops and arresting the governor of #Catalunya to suppress its independence ...
After 1/2 a century of terrorism against #Basques
And #Greece which once was the only European country to recognize PLO will not recognize Palestine because that will provide grounds for Northern #Cyprus independence
@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@fedibird.com
#POPULISM = #FASCISM
Adding NoScript in librewolf and learning to choose what you want to see, and whether if scripts are enabled to do it on a private window, may be time consuming. But it shows the extent blackmail goes on by pages to allow them to collect data from you.
I often decide I don't need the information they supply that bad!
@weirdwriter @librewolf
As in non-automatic being the old fashioned way of downloading a tarball or cloning the git, compiling and installing.
I was thinking more like the defaults on windows of doing upgrades automatically in the background, like a few GB every other week and if not on the desktop at the time or attempting to shutdown you may never notice.
There is a trend for such in linux, some pkg managers or people even making cron jobs to have it done daily, or mozilla
& others
@Para_lyzed
One out of five pkgs in AUR are so unmaintained they don't even build anymore.
Clieaning up junk is more urgent than screening what comes on.
@constantokra
The majority of people speak of junk/fast food 3 brands of soda, 2, 3 brands of coffee/tea, 2 brnands of tropical fruit ,3 brands of power-drinks, 3 brands of beer,
as nutrition, 2 brands of phone OSs, and it is all crap if not bad for you.
So what is your point?
What is popular is what has been marketed, and it is usually both dominant and a very poor alternative to what it sells for.
@Rustmilian
I am clearly speaking of the @linux bot constantly pumping systemd only distros, gnome, kde plasma, chrome, qt and other corporate trash that ubuntu mint manjaro debian have embraced as their devs are on the corporate payroll
@InEnduringGrowStrong
Init is just one process, 98% of systemd is its logind, or its isolated fork called elogind, and its multilayered dbus labyrinth, which all those mentioned use. Running gnome and its applications without it is nearly impossible
@Rustmilian
The one article almost literally says if you don't like systemd go to F**BSD and away from linux!
But yes, there are those irrelevant 3 mentions in a site as old as systemd itself.
RedHat is/was to IBM what Qt is to Oracle, vehicles of domination into the open free ecosystem. Marketing dictates what "free" code to use.
Show me 1 ONE article in phoronics that "mentions" alternatives to systemd, and I will not speak of linux or foss ever again!
That would be #OpenRC #S6 #66 #Runit #DaemonTools #Synit etc.
@Rustmilian Now that is #marketing not #FOSS
Qt's late licensing is more insulting and provocative than MS Oracel IBM Google Facebook put together.
It probably took a 5story legal firm to disect through GPL licensing to figure out a way they can sell and not be open unless you pay
@Rustmilian
You mean it is a community that exclusively publishes corporate products as linux making no acknowledgement that alternatives exist?
@FQQD https://kafeneio.social/@yianiris/112014015067226166
And they have made money not by sharing but by monopolizing and selling, which makes them who they are.
You are a foul if you think a for profit (even non-profit) corporation will have an interest advancing Open and Free software. They are there to OWN code and trade names, MARKET trade names, to defeat alternatives that lack corporate/banking funding.
@Rustmilian