Toyota executives was greedy and didn't continue paying their workers fairly and now they are unionizing. They fucked around. Here comes the finding out.
While everyone should be able to afford basic necessities like a vehicle and wages need to be increased across the board, the title is weird. You can work at a factory making a thing you can't afford and not have much of a problem with that. "I build cruise liners for a living. I can't afford to buy one." would be a strange statement.
Is this video about something only large corporations can afford, or is it about something that is necessary for lots of families to have and seen as normal to buy?
You say people should be able to afford necessities. Then you compare buying a car to buying a cruise ship. One is a necessity to many people, one is completely unrelated to people.
Yes the argument makes no sense when you change the subject completely.
A car is a necessity, nobody is denying that and I state as much. To be clear, I think people should be able to afford cars. I just don't think it's weird to work at a factory where you make luxury items more expensive than the average person can afford.
at 0:05: "I totaled a car last week and I can't afford to replace it". I feel like there is a bit of undue entitlement in that statement. Should any worker be able to comfortably replace a car that they destroyed?
I have no love for Toyota or any other mega corp, and I think the bigger issue in this article is the very first statement in the interview: "I spent three and a half years building cars and I can't afford a home yet". That is a big problem, but I wouldn't attribute that to greedy corporate employers exclusively.
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Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2y
My company bills 1h of my time to clients at roughly what I make in almost a week.
flyboy_146@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
🤯 I'm sorry to hear that.
I'm curious, do you work on exotic / ultraexpensive cars?
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Haha no, I just work in IT (datacenter environment) so it's not as if I can start my own company to work with these clients.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y
thantik@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
I didn't realize this but Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota don't have unions. I thought all automotive workers in the USA were in unions!
I'm the only employee of my business, so I AM the union.
alilbee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Ah, but you're also the boss. Tough break, those are gonna be brutal negotiations.
jaschen@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 2y
Toyota executives was greedy and didn't continue paying their workers fairly and now they are unionizing. They fucked around. Here comes the finding out.
red@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 2y
It's so weird to see this. Where I live, unions are a default. It should become the norm everywhere, not just in northern Europe.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
In which country of Western, Central or Southern Europe are unions not a default? Don't know about Eastern Europe.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Thatcher killed most unions in the UK, though in the past few years there has been a slow resurgence.
red@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2y
Not sure, but I do know the union stuff is very prominent in Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark
alilbee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
While everyone should be able to afford basic necessities like a vehicle and wages need to be increased across the board, the title is weird. You can work at a factory making a thing you can't afford and not have much of a problem with that. "I build cruise liners for a living. I can't afford to buy one." would be a strange statement.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Mate, come on. He makes Toyotas, not super yachts. I think you're missing the point.
I don't think his view here is "anything that I have a hand in manufacturing, I should be able to afford".
That's not the point of this video, and it's not the mindset that anybody is espousing.
alilbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
As I said in another reply, fair enough. I just read it in a way that inferred something it seems other people didn't.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
Is this video about something only large corporations can afford, or is it about something that is necessary for lots of families to have and seen as normal to buy?
alilbee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Please reread my first sentence.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
How does that make your bad argument better?
You say people should be able to afford necessities. Then you compare buying a car to buying a cruise ship. One is a necessity to many people, one is completely unrelated to people.
Yes the argument makes no sense when you change the subject completely.
alilbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
A car is a necessity, nobody is denying that and I state as much. To be clear, I think people should be able to afford cars. I just don't think it's weird to work at a factory where you make luxury items more expensive than the average person can afford.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2y
Ok, so we can say in plain terms: a person working in a factory should be able to afford **buying a car**.
alilbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yep, and I think that would have been a better title.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2y
But that is the title.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
A car shouldn't be a necessity. public transport, short transfers, walkable cities and all that. But I agree – it is a necessity, sadly.
AGD4@programming.dev · -1 pts · 2y
at 0:05: "I totaled a car last week and I can't afford to replace it". I feel like there is a bit of undue entitlement in that statement. Should any worker be able to comfortably replace a car that they destroyed?
I have no love for Toyota or any other mega corp, and I think the bigger issue in this article is the very first statement in the interview: "I spent three and a half years building cars and I can't afford a home yet". That is a big problem, but I wouldn't attribute that to greedy corporate employers exclusively.
the_third@feddit.de · 7 pts · 2y
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
AGD4@programming.dev · 0 pts · 2y
But not exclusively.
You can point the finger to individual and foreign investors, but also to government policies (or lack thereof) that make that possible.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y