I swear to God there were pictures of people at Jan 6 wearing "Better Dead than Red" shirts, of the sort that have been around since at least the 80s if not earlier. Expected, predictable, cold war era bumper sticker phrasing on a shirt that I'm pretty sure I've been seeing worn by roughly the same kind of personality all this time. The kind of personality who was still calling Russians "the commies" ten years ago.
It's as if the right forgot all their decades of being ready to kill Russians/Soviets at the drop of a hat, to immediately turn Putin into one of their folk heroes. I get that's the power of corruption but like - do we just pretend this wasn't the most vocally anti-Russian segment of US society up until roughly 4 years ago?
mostly St Petersburg bot farms I'd say. Corruption at the top of the GOP helps but that's not what turns millions of people around in a couple of years.
Macron is right to encourage Europe to build their own military weapons. In the eventuality that Trump gets re-elected, they're gonna get fucked over by Trump pretty bad and won't be able to rely on the US for any help against Russia. Putin will start taking over all of the old Soviet countries in Eastern Europe and things are going to get worse.
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octopus_ink@lemmy.ml · 51 pts · 2y
I swear to God there were pictures of people at Jan 6 wearing "Better Dead than Red" shirts, of the sort that have been around since at least the 80s if not earlier. Expected, predictable, cold war era bumper sticker phrasing on a shirt that I'm pretty sure I've been seeing worn by roughly the same kind of personality all this time. The kind of personality who was still calling Russians "the commies" ten years ago.
It's as if the right forgot all their decades of being ready to kill Russians/Soviets at the drop of a hat, to immediately turn Putin into one of their folk heroes. I get that's the power of corruption but like - do we just pretend this wasn't the most vocally anti-Russian segment of US society up until roughly 4 years ago?
something_random_tho@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
I don’t know what you’re saying. We’ve always been at war with Oceania.
EisFrei@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
It clearly happened, but I struggle to understand how
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Putin shoving his hand up Trump's ass and making him speak like a puppet
grue@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Communism (which they hate) ended and was replaced by fascism (which they love).
schnokobaer@feddit.de · 11 pts · 2y
mostly St Petersburg bot farms I'd say. Corruption at the top of the GOP helps but that's not what turns millions of people around in a couple of years.
grue@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
They were never "anti-Russia." They were anti-Soviet. Russia flipped from communism to fascism, so they flipped from hating to loving it.
There's a lot of things that are inconsistent and hypocritical about conservatives, but their attitude towards Russia isn't one of them.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 2y
I have many recollections of conservatives in my sphere not distinguishing Russia from the USSR, so we have had different experiences in this regard.
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
That's just them being slow on the uptake. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 2y
Macron is right to encourage Europe to build their own military weapons. In the eventuality that Trump gets re-elected, they're gonna get fucked over by Trump pretty bad and won't be able to rely on the US for any help against Russia. Putin will start taking over all of the old Soviet countries in Eastern Europe and things are going to get worse.
eran_morad@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Yeah, but is this swaying literally anyone?
Illuminostro@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
We’ve all been down bad, but have you ever been Putin romance propaganda down bad?
Illuminostro@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
growsomethinggood@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 2y
Not to be glib, but somehow I don't think we need to worry about her casually browsing therightcantmeme at midwest dot social for fascism porn
Illuminostro@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
growsomethinggood@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 2y
Lol, 'kay buddy, have a good one
casmael@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 2y
Man everything about this is so fucking cursed
exanime@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 2y
Well I guess if Putin literally "fucked your brains out", you'd wind up voting maga
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
Hell fuck you so hard that you turn tankie
anguo@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 2y
I'm sorry, but there's no way I can make that cursive part spell out "Grandma".
Mastengwe@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y
As much as I can’t fucking stand “Trutin” or, “Putump,” or whatever we call that amalgamation of human filth….
This reads like a left-wing attempt to make you think someone on the right said this.
Or… wait….
are they really openly supporting Puttie like this now?
SPRUNT@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Yes. They see Putin as strong, and Trump as America's Putin.
RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Is this real?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
It's Facebook. Even if it was made ironically, it would get passed around by true believers.
niktemadur@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
It's like I stood across the fifty foot-long table, through the two inch-thick glass, and peered into his soul.
ZILtoid1991@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
That is like the most terminally online language I've seen in one of these memes...
x4740N@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Who is cSnapma
LudwigvanBeethoven@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
I think that's russian and says S8marta. Idk what Smarta means or what the 8 is but hey
athos77@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Never. But I'll play along to see if I can get rid of one or both of the bastards.