Ok, but using a hapsburg as an example of what inbreeding looks like isn't very representative. That family specifically wanted to look like that. they were very proud of their "noble countenances". That's more the result of the generations of selective breeding by the previous generation choosing marital successors. They're more pugs really, Rather than examples of the general effects of incest. If you want more general results of inbreeding, maybe look to the Whitaker's. Though, they also likely have other preexisting mental health issues in their family, and there's no data about their actual family tree.
In reality tough, it's likely one of those things that's not as consistent as "they get all fucked up looking after x amount of inbreeding" there's just too many factors at play. And I mean, speaking of pugs, they're no more inbred than golden retrievers. Golden retrievers are beautiful and loving dogs that will die to cancer by the age of 10. So even when inbreeding issues do manifest, it's not always going to make you ugly.
Are you seriously questioning if someone doesn’t understand the data in the way it was presented and then following it up with a “oh my god it’s so easy” type statement?
I don't understand why Ptolomy XII and Cleopatra III are drawn with a different connection to their parents. The local tree looks the same for both, but the lines are drawn differently.
Edit: nevermind, I scrolled down and saw the comment with the better picture.
Suzanne Pleshette was the actress, Leona Helmsley was the character in 'The Queen Of Mean.' Leona was a famous hotel owner [with her husband, Harry] Suzanne played the wife on the first 'The Bob Newhart Show' and did a lot of other stuff.
This makes me think of the film W., a chronicle of president George W. Bush's life. Who played the goofy-looking, monkey-eared president? None other than Hollywood hunk Josh Brolin (Thanos in the MCU, Cable in Deadpool, Brand in The Goonies, etc.)
I remember watching this film when it came out in 2008 and thinking, "Damn! George W. Bush is buff!" Especially in the oil rig scenes.
Reverse of this happened for me at the end of The Big Sick. I was “wow, maybe i am racist but the actor is really similar to the guy”… it is based on the real life story of him and his wife
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hydroptic@sopuli.xyz · 65 pts · 2y
bleistift2@feddit.de · 91 pts · 2y
A high coefficient of inbreeding means you get a higher chance of bad things happening. You can still win the genetic lottery even with bad odds.
Naz@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
Maybe Mark Anthony was into that slack-jawed gormless look - you never know what causes a career politician to abandon the empire!
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 2y
Ok, but using a hapsburg as an example of what inbreeding looks like isn't very representative. That family specifically wanted to look like that. they were very proud of their "noble countenances". That's more the result of the generations of selective breeding by the previous generation choosing marital successors. They're more pugs really, Rather than examples of the general effects of incest. If you want more general results of inbreeding, maybe look to the Whitaker's. Though, they also likely have other preexisting mental health issues in their family, and there's no data about their actual family tree.
In reality tough, it's likely one of those things that's not as consistent as "they get all fucked up looking after x amount of inbreeding" there's just too many factors at play. And I mean, speaking of pugs, they're no more inbred than golden retrievers. Golden retrievers are beautiful and loving dogs that will die to cancer by the age of 10. So even when inbreeding issues do manifest, it's not always going to make you ugly.
moon@lemmy.cafe · 19 pts · 2y
I don't understand the graph, how do 3 people make a baby?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 2y
Seriously dude? There are so many videos online that show this.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 2y
Are you seriously questioning if someone doesn’t understand the data in the way it was presented and then following it up with a “oh my god it’s so easy” type statement?
Gabu@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
Are you seriously so naïve that you think it wasn't a sex joke?
Gabu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Horizontal connected lines indicate siblings, not marital relation
Turun@feddit.de · 5 pts · 2y
I don't understand why Ptolomy XII and Cleopatra III are drawn with a different connection to their parents. The local tree looks the same for both, but the lines are drawn differently.
Edit: nevermind, I scrolled down and saw the comment with the better picture.
HowManyNimons@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
With cum, cum.
teegus@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 2y
What does the different types of lines mean? Solid vs lines vs dotted?
makyo@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 2y
It's really badly done. This one seems better:
moon@lemmy.cafe · 16 pts · 2y
where did Cleopatra 6 go
witty_username@feddit.nl · 16 pts · 2y
Probably ran off with the wrong Ptolemy
oce@jlai.lu · 13 pts · 2y
She outbred
KrankyKong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Yeah I have no clue what's happening on the lower half of the image.
hglman@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
When your grandfather is also your great-grandfather and the brother of your other grandfather.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 5 pts · 2y
Yeah, that inbreeding coefficient just proves harder in my mind that Cleopatra looked Greek as fuck, and maybe looked a little.... melted
Dagwood222@lemm.ee · 25 pts · 2y
The worst example of this is when they had this woman
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e2/ba/0f/e2ba0f2bfc575508b36340323001b6d9--suzanne-pleshette-dramatic-classic.jpg
play this woman
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/06/hemsley4cr.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1
the_rogue@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 2y
Maybe she looked better when she was young ?
Michal@programming.dev · 8 pts · 2y
I believe that's the joke
the_rogue@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
My bad
dditty@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 2y
Is that Audrey Hepburn? What movie?
Dagwood222@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y
Suzanne Pleshette was the actress, Leona Helmsley was the character in 'The Queen Of Mean.' Leona was a famous hotel owner [with her husband, Harry] Suzanne played the wife on the first 'The Bob Newhart Show' and did a lot of other stuff.
cobysev@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
This makes me think of the film W., a chronicle of president George W. Bush's life. Who played the goofy-looking, monkey-eared president? None other than Hollywood hunk Josh Brolin (Thanos in the MCU, Cable in Deadpool, Brand in The Goonies, etc.)
I remember watching this film when it came out in 2008 and thinking, "Damn! George W. Bush is buff!" Especially in the oil rig scenes.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
Yeah, that was strange. Sam Rockwell was surprisingly fitting as Dubya in Vice though.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 16 pts · 2y
Walking Tall showing the real dude as he was the year the movie came out when he was an old man.
"That dude did all that? No way."
Dagwood222@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buford_Pusser
Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 2y
I meant TV ugly not ugly ugly
kinsnik@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Reverse of this happened for me at the end of The Big Sick. I was “wow, maybe i am racist but the actor is really similar to the guy”… it is based on the real life story of him and his wife
Flightbird386@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
I'd go with Salma Hayek for the uplift in Frida.
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I raise you Sofia Vergara in Griselda
Flightbird386@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Wow, that is quite the upcast there.
Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
The Conjuring. Ed and Lorraine Warren aren't exactly lookers
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 2y
Or honest...
Mwallerby@startrek.website · 1 pts · 2y
The TV show "Scorpion" for several reasons
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2y