"Anglicized" is probably not the best way to think about it. The Latin letter "v" was pronounced "w" through the classical period, but had shifted to β or v (fricative) by the third century, long before English existed. V was pronounced v (voiced labiodental fricative) for many centuries. And though we do tend to give the classical period a lot of prestige, it was just one phase for Latin.
Funny part is, the same shift happened in a lot of languages. I think some more obvious examples are modern German and Polish, where letter W corresponds to the V sound. Although I believe that the shift happened in German and then Polish borrowed the letter with the new pronunciation.
Thanks so much for pointing this out. As a native German speaker I still had no idea what's going on until this comment made me question what a W sounds like in other languages. It's literally a double-U in English, how come I never stumbled upon that.
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Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 2y
He has a vife, you knov.
Carvex@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
So, your father was a Woman?
nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 2y
Fwow him to the gwound most woughwy centuwion
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 61 pts · 2y
iiGxC@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 2y
Now that's what I call an ewacuation
Localhorst86@feddit.org · 11 pts · 2y
But they awe wunning towawds it.
bitfucker@programming.dev · 4 pts · 2y
Not v, but j
iiGxC@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 2y
I was talking about what the mountain's doing 😏
Fades@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What the hell is going on with that hand bottom right
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 1 pts · 2y
That's a normal looking pinkie /s
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 2y
Mawwiage.
Mawwiage is wat bwings us togevaaah, today.
Mawwiage. Vfat bwessed awaaaingement, vfat dweam wifin a dweeam…
CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 2y
How else would it be pronounced, how is the anglicised pronunciation?
(Serious question by a non native speaker)
Paraneoptera@sopuli.xyz · 32 pts · 2y
"Anglicized" is probably not the best way to think about it. The Latin letter "v" was pronounced "w" through the classical period, but had shifted to β or v (fricative) by the third century, long before English existed. V was pronounced v (voiced labiodental fricative) for many centuries. And though we do tend to give the classical period a lot of prestige, it was just one phase for Latin.
rockerface@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 2y
Funny part is, the same shift happened in a lot of languages. I think some more obvious examples are modern German and Polish, where letter W corresponds to the V sound. Although I believe that the shift happened in German and then Polish borrowed the letter with the new pronunciation.
flughoernchen@feddit.org · 6 pts · 2y
Thanks so much for pointing this out. As a native German speaker I still had no idea what's going on until this comment made me question what a W sounds like in other languages. It's literally a double-U in English, how come I never stumbled upon that.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 2y
in swedish i think we've just gone from "fv" to "v", somehow
very common example since it's in old surnames: hufvud > huvud
Ashyr@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 2y
Veh-soo-vee-us.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 2y
With "v" sounding like it does in other English words like valve.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 2y
Walwe
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee · 23 pts · 2y
How else would it be pronounced?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
A voiced labiodental fricative.
Klear@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Sounds painful. You should have that looked at.
BossDj@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
Then you stimulate the clitoris
thorbot@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
How I delete someone else’s account
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 2y
Werry Well, Welease Woger
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
I work in IT and had a dude use the UwU accent with me on a call today while I was trying to fix his email. Made me wanna barf.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
How did you know that he was doing it on purpose? Some people talk that way naturally.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Because the call started off with him talking normally. I've spoken to him a bunch before today.
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2y
Haircut checks out
DahGangalang@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 2y
Thanks I Hate It.....So Much
norimee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
VESUVIO 🤌
Jon_Servo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Does anybody ewse feew wike having a giggiw when I say the name... Biggus Dickus?
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Seeing all the compression artifacts reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmaUIyvy8E8
librejoe@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Oh god, it's retarded