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c/australia · by vividspecter@lemm.ee · 1y

South Australia’s upper house narrowly rejects ‘Trumpian’ bill to wind back abortion care

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/16/south-australias-upper-house-narrowly-rejects-trumpian-bill-to-wind-back-abortion-care

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18 Comments

a1studmuffin@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It's one of the worst feelings when you realise that social progress isn't guaranteed, and regressions happen frequently throughout history.

Susan60@aus.social · 3 pts · 1y

@a1studmuffin @vividspecter

Which is what this is about. The number of later term abortions is tiny, but this would get them a foot in the door & reopen debate.

vividspecter@lemm.ee · 16 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The Liberal frontbencher Ben Hood, who introduced the bill, says the woman’s right to end a pregnancy is kept because the pregnancy ends when the baby is born. “The innovation of this bill is that it allows a mother to end her pregnancy throughout all nine months and indeed, right up to birth,” he says.

That's some mental gymnastics to come up with that logic. And unsurprisingly, from the supposed "moderate" branch of the Coalition.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 1y

That cunt is an outright bastard and so is every fucker who voted with him

No one decides late term to just fucking abort. At that point it's overwhelmingly euthanasia. Forcing someone to carry a dead / hellishly suffering child to term is pure fucking evil.

And we need to start saying that very very fucking loudly every time this shit comes up. Because they're framing it as kittens and puppies and save the babbies when it's fucking none of these things

Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The one thing I hate about it country is its desire to copy America with everything. Even though we see how poorly it goes for them first.

zurohki@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y

Our lizard people see how much money their lizard people are making torturing their peasants and want to get in on the action. That's why we have the push towards private health care.

melbaboutown@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Here we fucking go :(

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Religion, and by extension Conservatism, are mental illnesses and should be treated as such.

kerr@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Fucking hell SA

Ilandar@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
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joelfromaus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

…legislation that would force women seeking an abortion after 27 weeks and six days – an extremely rare occurrence – to be induced, to deliver the child alive.

Emphasis mine.

That’s 10 weeks early. I’m far from an expert but that’s extremely premature, right? Like, that baby is going to be in a very precarious place for a significant amount of time, yeah?

Again, I’m far from an expert but that seems horrible for literally everyone involved, especially the child! Possibly leading to lifelong health and developmental issues.

[Ben Hood] has previously said that, once born, if the baby “isn’t compatible with life”, it would then be given palliative care.

Takes “born to die” to the extreme.

rainynight65@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1y

If a woman seeks abortion at that stage, it is almost guaranteed to be due to a condition that would seriously endanger her, the baby, or both, if the pregnancy was carried to term. Nobody just decides after 27 weeks that they simply don't want the baby. In these cases, inducing to deliver the baby will likely not help the baby and it could still seriously harm the mother.

What this guy proposes would be, in most cases, indistinguishable from an abortion, but way more harmful for everyone involved. It's telling that it is usually men who try to push these kinds of law.

GlenRambo@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 1y

Worse still that an MP came in form sick leave to vote against.

From what I read somone would abstain and shed be on leave, making the votes even out. Then they pulled out and said they'd vote so she came in to have her vote count!

galoisghost@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y (5 replies)

We need to start sending these cunts back to the Stone Age. Queensland could be first but they seem to be blinded by the fight against a racist bogey man that doesn’t exist “youth crime”

unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y (3 replies)
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galoisghost@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Agree, I wasn’t picking on Queenslanders (this time) just that they have an election coming up where abortion right are very much on the line

unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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rainynight65@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1y

If the Libs win, I hope they go full Newman again and get kicked out after one term. I'm not exactly enamoured with QLD Labor but bloody hell anything is better than the toxic Libs in this state.

rainynight65@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y

If only you could see the 'newspapers' in Queensland, every other front page has 'young crims' scaremongering and they make it sound like Townsville and such are hellholes where people are terrorised by young criminals day and night without reprieve.

Weird how the LNP's only answer to this is 'adult crime, adult time'. Like, literally, zero policies on how to prevent youth crime, how to help children with better education and more perspectives for their future. Nothing. Just harsher punishments.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I didn't think Australia would still be religious enough to have considered this. They're generally more liberal than the US.

vividspecter@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

I don't have any numbers, but I suspect that there are more openly religious people in government compared to the general population. Which could simply be due to the average age of politicians being older.

And SA is known to be a pretty religious place historically compared to the rest of Australia.

Ilandar@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
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