Yes, China is the hardest part, if we just stop having economic relations with them, then we have way less soft power for example. We should help Taiwan for example.
Russia though, is propping up Iran (or did so) and NK, so affecting russia affects Iran, NK not so much.
But standing strong together is s first step, and sanktion where it can be done too.
Yes now is the time especially wrt Iran and ruzzia. Irans proxies are significantly weakened in Syria and Lebanon. Russia also lost influence in Syria now that the freedom-loving people of Syria have risen up. Russia is also losing in Ukraine.
Either these countries buck up and accept the Rules Based Order or pay the consequences.
What rules-based order? Gestures vaguely at the Middle East. Also you're forgetting that all these countries are bankrolled by China so while they're weakened they still have a strong backer who's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Have you seen the crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism in like half the Weet? If that's youe standard for civilization then your "civilized world" is gonna be two or three countries tops.
That doesn't mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.
Iran is standing up to the American dictatorship which is committing genocide. Keep virtue signaling about that headscarf while massacarring women and children. Your horse is lower than theirs.
Imagine advocating to murder women to "liberate them from their headscarf" in 2024.
26 Comments
Valmond@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
Isn't it time to step up to these bullies? Iran, NK, Russia and China.
Human life is more worth than some dictators ego.
fxomt@lemm.ee · 23 pts · 1y
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
I know you said "and more" but that list should probably include ISIS.
fxomt@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Sudan and Yemen are powder kegs and they are mostly being ignored, which is quite worrisome.
fxomt@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
The US has been funding Saudi war crimes in Yemen for some time, for those who are unaware. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Saudi_Arabian%E2%80%93led_operations_in_Yemen
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 8 pts · 1y
Stand up to them... How exactly?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Maybe write a strongly worded post on social media or something ?
Valmond@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
We can become energy independent, give all the weapons Ukraine needs, go after Russias cyber warfare, and more.
Edit: Angry downvoters lol
PapstJL4U@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
When the voters don't want to pay the costs, it's not possible to make change.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y
Fair enough but that stuff only affects Russia. It doesn't affect Iran and it definitely doesn't affect China.
Valmond@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y
Yes, China is the hardest part, if we just stop having economic relations with them, then we have way less soft power for example. We should help Taiwan for example.
Russia though, is propping up Iran (or did so) and NK, so affecting russia affects Iran, NK not so much.
But standing strong together is s first step, and sanktion where it can be done too.
prole@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
We don't buy energy from Iran or NK (or China as far as I know).
Valmond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
No but from russia, and they support Iran & NK.
TruckFonaldDump@lemm.ee · -5 pts · 1y
Yes now is the time especially wrt Iran and ruzzia. Irans proxies are significantly weakened in Syria and Lebanon. Russia also lost influence in Syria now that the freedom-loving people of Syria have risen up. Russia is also losing in Ukraine.
Either these countries buck up and accept the Rules Based Order or pay the consequences.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 8 pts · 1y
What rules-based order? Gestures vaguely at the Middle East. Also you're forgetting that all these countries are bankrolled by China so while they're weakened they still have a strong backer who's not going anywhere anytime soon.
TruckFonaldDump@lemm.ee · -5 pts · 1y
fxomt@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y
Valmond@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 1y
Civilised world:
Where you can speak your mind.
Is it really that hard?
That doesn't mean the people in those countries cannot be civilised, as people in civilised countries cannot be psycopathic murderers.
Incoming: "USA bad"
fxomt@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Valmond@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y
Have you seen the crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism in like half the Weet? If that's youe standard for civilization then your "civilized world" is gonna be two or three countries tops.
I legit don't understand what you mean there.
Valmond@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y
I can say free palestine, scream it even and nothing will happen to me. Where on earth do you get your clickbait news from?
Valmond@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 1y
I believe you.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 1y
Iran is standing up to the American dictatorship which is committing genocide. Keep virtue signaling about that headscarf while massacarring women and children. Your horse is lower than theirs.
Imagine advocating to murder women to "liberate them from their headscarf" in 2024.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
You would think they would have learned something from the backlash this caused last time.